I need a good answer for this one.

I always like to play games with girls I text, I.E. text back really fast, then boom wait like 3 hours. Or I can actively be in a conversation, then all of a sudden show no interest, while she chases.

Is it ethical to play with a girls emotions?

I know what they're thinking, because I've had girls do the same to me.

This girl and I are soon going to date, should I still be doing this PUA method style of texting? Or only do the style to other girls, but show to this girl that I care and what not?

Here is this chick that goes to my university. She texted me asking if I wanted to go for a drink. When I was working in the lab today I got this text from her and here is how I replied.

OKC Sarah: Hey Deep, it's Sarah from okcupid. What's your last name? 2:44 PM
Me: Hey Sarah, how is it going ? My last name is ********. What is your full name ? 2:48 PM

Anyway, now she replied to me from a different number. I guess the first number that she gave to me (which I stored as OKC Sarah) is a google voice number.

Sarah H**** ( from new number) : Sarah H***** 2:58 PM

This was my reply on getting the text from this new number.
Me: Were you trying to find me on FB ? And which one of these two numbers is the google voice one ? 2:59 PM

She did not reply. Maybe she sent that text from the new number by mistake and is ashamed of being caught or maybe it was just plain stupid to ask that.

In the evening after I got back home I texted her again trying to diffuse the situation.
Me: Hey, have you tried Spotify ? 9:57 PM

She has not replied yet.

Where did it go wrong and how do I save the date tomorrow ? Not that I care for her, but learning how to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat is something that I am really interested in learning. Thanks.

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"The winner is the chef who takes the same ingredients as everyone else and produces the best results." ---- Edward de Bono

Well, let me begin by saying that push/pull routines are fine.

Now, an overdrive of push/pull can be attributed to PMS-ing. I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say, even if I am camouflaging it as a joke.

Having a little fun and games is never an issue, it actually makes things more interesting with you chasing sometimes and her chasing on the others. But, trying to control her, by utilising her attraction to you seems childish. So what if you can predict her texting patterns? It just shows that she likes to be in touch with you and you know it. Why use that knowledge to toy with her?

The aim of pick-up isn't to utilise our skills to manipulate women, it's to become better people and better lovers. Unless you are aiming for that, you're not on the right path.

And be uniform in your behavior. To her, as to the other girls. You can keep some extra affection for her, that's not a problem, but to treat her in a completely different way implies double standards. I'm not in favour of that.

Hope I've given you an answer you can work with.

Good luck, and thanks for thinking of me.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Okay, let me begin by saying that I personally do not find anything in here, that would put her off you.

The questions you posed to her, were fine. And I can't see anything going wrong as of such.

Maybe, she might have got a little ticked by the "Were you trying to find me on FB ?" comment, assuming that she thought you were a bit too cocky (I don't) but that's all there is.

My best guess here would be to completely close off this line of conversation and begin anew.

"New Day, New Text Conversations."

So, tomorrow text her with a "Hello there. How are you this morning?" and roll with that.

Good luck.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Hey Don, Thanks for the reply. Anyway she replied this afternoon. Texted me suggesting a place to go tonight. Going out in half an hour. Definitely going to try for a f-close tonight. If I get it its great, else I shall move to another girl on Friday. Wish me luck.

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"The winner is the chef who takes the same ingredients as everyone else and produces the best results." ---- Edward de Bono

Go forth and conquer.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

I sent her a message telling her that I'll be in town for a week at the end of the month, telling her (with a wink) to clean her schedule and cancel all other plans. Here's her answer:

"Good evening! Actually I haven't got many plans for that week so far! If I'm not wrong, you will also catch [a social gathering with common acquaintances, let's call it X Afternoon]!"

What's a good answer to this? I was thinking of something in the lines of:

"You mean X Morning? I'll definitely show up there, what do you think I'm coming for? Though, they should've chosen a name that also includes poor B-people like myself."

(We're both B-people with irregular day cycles whenever we don't have to go to work)

Well, she is complying with your request by saying that she is free anyway that time, so that's a plus.

As for the reply message why inject everything with humor, cockiness blah blah.. why not just keep it simple?

"Well, I'll definitely be there. And if you're talking about (the even't name)? Yeah, I might be/will be attending that. Should be interesting. So.."

and lead from there.

Never and I mean NEVER underestimate the power of normal conversation. I'm sure we here at the forum, will tell you to spice up everything, all the time, but I'm just going to say that sometimes, the easiest reply is the best.

Occam's Text? Probably.

Good luck with this one.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

My question is, is there any way to come back from a day 2 text where the girl doesnt remember you? I'll try to include details but this question and the last paragraph pretty much sum it up.

I was hooking up with this girl in a club, we had hit it off and I was isolating well. We left the club headed towards the beach when she ran into some friends. Ended up in me getting cock blocked by one of her female friends. I dont think it was intentional but her friend was terribly drunk, so I was just like whatever, you hang with your friends, I grabbed her number, quick make out in the street, then back to the club.

Im from australia and it was during a massive party week, so I was drunk as too.

I did the next day text and we talked a little, but because of how much alcohol was involved she didnt take her phone out at night with her, so we didnt end up catching up later in the week.


My text this time around was about how id love to catch up with her with less alcohol involved.

Her reply was receptive, but basically like im really sorry but i think it would be kind of weird. I basically laughed at it, played it off as her loss jokingly and just shifted to comfort building. Is there anything else I can do or just hope she replies?

Alright, I get this random message from this girl on facebook. It reads:
I honestly iddn't know who this girl was or where she had come from so, i just went a long with it, because she was hot.

So I start from there, We continued to talk, I asked her what her story was, she gave me this long talk and well not to go into too much detail, she sent this message: So I waited a bit and we started texting. I started the "questions" game and we talked for most of that night. And for a couple days after that. I'm in college and she lives in my hometown which is about a 2 and a half hour drive, so when i went home one weekend she was excited, thinking we could meet up. I couldn't.

Then I tried to escalate, I sent her a text something like this. I figured this was a very minor escalation seeing as how she had hinted at naked pictures and other sexual things since the first night. To which I usually had some sarcastic comment like, But Now it's hard to keep her texting. She's just as giggly and light hearted in her texts but far less talkative. Definitely no all nighters and now i"m always the last one to text. The only other thing is that her mother had a surgery to remove a tumor last week.

When I found out I texted and asked how she was doing, she said that she was with her mom and that she was doing well so I told her, "Well hey, tell her that, that stranger you added on facebook gives her his best wishes. "

That's pretty much the last thing that's been said, and I don't know how to proceed forward.

Well, let me begin by giving you a little insight on how women work, when it comes to one-off encounters in random parties. If you can close them, you close them. 'Cause what generally happens the next morning is that when they are out of their purple haze, they realize that they might've been a bit wayward in their affections. And then, the regret starts seeping in and it all goes downhill from here.

And the worst bit is, that you cannot do anything about it, since you're not even there. I read somewhere only 45% Women feel positive after a one night stand.

All that aside, you need to build comfort with this girl. Make her understand that she didn't make a wrong choice in encouraging your overtures. And that you are fully deserving of her affections and she of yours, without all the alcohol involved i.e.

So, instead of saying, "Your loss" and similar crap, why don't you go with, "Well, I would like to get to know you better."?

Makes life easier. Makes the pick-up better.

Good luck.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Okay. I want you to pay close attention to the highlighted parts. They shall be the keywords, I will base my answer on.

Firstly, I have nothing against asking a girl out through text, but I always prefer calling, if not asking her in person. So, next time play your cards on the call, the best thing is you can figure her tone from that, and understand if more comfort building is needed or not.

Moving, on your idea of date involves you cooking, you hanging out with your friends and kissing? Really? 'Cause that makes me uncomfortable, never mind the girl.

Look, you need to keep the first dates in public setting, that will relax her, she doesn't know you yet, hell you guys haven't even met other than facebook, inviting her to all those activities is a little too forward.

Moving on, your reply to her asking "lol kissing?" could be something better, something like, "Well, we will just go with the flow. " instead of making it sound like an accusation that it probably came out as.

Next, if you had to wish her Mum a good recovery you do not and I mean DO NOT want to associate yourself with the 'stranger you added on facebook' tag. I mean, that "stranger" part just implies a lack of trust and knowledge in the relationship. You don't want that. Even if as a tease.

Well, it's not hard to keep her texting, you're just not talking about the right things, then. Keep the conversation about topics you both can talk about, maybe even get her to tell stories about herself, her life, secrets from her past blah blah blah you reveal some stuff too. It's a two way lane. Look, for there to be a conversation both the people have to make an effort. You seem bored and frustrated with her replies, so she won't make much effort either. And honestly, a woman today has her choice in men. So, I'd suggest you to get back in the saddle and make some more effort here.

You can get this one. Just improve on the comfort building and attraction bits. And call her as much as you can, calling is always, always better than texting.

Good luck. And thanks for thinking of me.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Hey Don, question for ya

There's an hb9 in my class. Ive been in class with her for a bout a month. Im pretty sure we caught each other making eye contact in class before. Im in college btw. At the beginning of class yesterday I asked her about liking hockey. That's what the guys in the class were talking about. I asked if she liked hockey ... she said no but id like to know more so I can chine in.

During class I made a witty comment. My professor told us Meredith viera was coning to speak to the school, and I said she's coming with the portugese club. The hb turned and smiled at me. I smiled back

Later in the class I noticed all my guy friends added her as a friend on Fb. I was intending to approach her after class but my professor wanted to talk

I sent her a message on facebook. Hey there, you're the girl in my media class right? I asked you a question about hockey today..?


Hb: haha yes that's me! !

Me: nice to meet you. How's it going.? I noticed nearly every guy in our class added you yesterday. You must've really good at media

Hb: haahaha yeah one guy added me and then I got like 4 more. But nope not awesome at media just starting! !

Me: Haa must ne awful being so unpopular. What do you want to do when you grow up?

Hb: yes its awful being me! Im not sure yet. I like comm but not sure which part. What about you?



Im not sure how to escalate. I don't have class with her until Thursday. Id like to go out for a coffee with her before or after class . Also, id much rather talk on the phone than facebook. Im not sure if this girl is interested in me and I don't know how to go about it considering ill see her on class. How am I doing so far? Do you think its clear to her that I am attracted?

"If you can close them, you close them." Love that line.

Solid advice man, thanks.

I picked up this girl a couple days back and she told me she had a bf but I still got her number. I texted her 10 min later

me: Hey its .....The weirdo from earlier =)
HB: haha. Ur not a weirdo. Ur confident :p
me: haha thanks. Now im blushing.
HB: Haha. Ur welcome.

i kinda wanted the convo to end because i was with a friend at that time.
Anyway I dont know if i should bother texting this girl since she says she has a bf but it might be a lie. Any tips on what i should text her to possibly get a date out of it? or how i should progress from this point.

Sorry if this is a lame question. I usually get numbers but i never make it through the text game.