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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:02 am 
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first of all what you want to do is you want to have three different types of openers from the various types of openers, it doesnt really matter and they all are pretty much equal. It really comes down to what you are comfortable doing, what you like using, and what you are getting a good reaction from.
If what you like using isnt working for you, you will want to switch it up, but if you have got something that works, that starts conversations more than 60 to 70 percent of the times then you will want to stick with that because you don't need to have a great opener. The purpose of the opener is literally just to start the conversation so that you can do all the other stuff that leads to getting laid. You can open with basically anything. So pick through various type of openers. So for the type of openers, i am going to quick you guys a quick rundown for those who are new or who don't know.
There is opinion opener where you ask a girl for an opinion like, do you think that drunk-i-love-you count and then a kind of story as why you are asking and then transition. They are good because they allow you to tease the girl on her answer. Whatever she says, you can say is wrong and tease her
then there are shocker openers. These are kind of high-risk reward openers like brad p's horse girl which you can google, or asking a girl if you slept with her last night or asking girls for their opinion about whether you should sleep with your secretary or pay your child support, the things that are really over the top and gain value through dominance.
Then there are direct openers which let the girl know that you are interested in her or the group, things like,"hey- you guys look cool, i wanted to come and meet you, i am khuram"
and then there are bet openers where you say that you had a bet that she is a certain nationality , or if they are in a group, you can say you had a bet about how they know each other or what they know for a living.
Then you have cold read openers, you can open by guessing where a girl is from or what she does for a living.
You can also do role play opener , an opener where you create a fun fantasy senario for either the girl or the group. I like to do ones like, if the girl is by herself, like she was waiting for me to to go on a blind date.
You can use functional openers like bumming a cigrette, asking what time is it, asking if they know where the bathroom is. These wont get you that far but are good if you cant do anything else.
And then we have observational openers. You can observe things about the girls, about the group, about the place, things about people who were talking to them--waitress, whatever.
And those are basically all your types of openers, so pick two or three of those that you are going to use in different situations. So may be like one that is mixed set opener, i am going to use an opinion opener. Those work really well on mixed sets. May be with a girl by herself, you are going to use a direct opener. That works best on girls by themselves. And may be with all-girl group, you are going to use a breed opener, and then you go out and thats what you do in those situations, make it easy on yourself, so there is not as much thinking involved or trying to figure out the best approach.
I hope that helps

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:00 am 
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is there any other advice you can give me for direct openers? ie other examples besides hi im...?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:33 am 
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direct opener means you are being 100% honest and just saying whatever came to your mind. For example i might see a girl that i feel is cute and my direct opener would be,"hey, i was just passing by as i saw you. And i think you are really cute. Can't stay longer because i gotto see my friend. Bytheway i am khuram " offering her my hand for hand shake.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:47 pm 
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i am very new to pick up but i have had many successes in the field without it. i'm looking for good openers that are maybe not the norm, as in instead of asking opinion? anyone got any ideas?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:02 pm 
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i guess you didnt read properly. It's not just opinion opener that i mentioned

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