Most if not all guys face the same thing ... "Approach anxiety" and they wonder what the heck happened to keep me away from talking to her, which in reality its you being in your head and rationalizing youself away from a hot women, if men could use there ability to rationalize away things like they do women they could talk a bank out of there money, and it can all be fizzled down to one thing..... The women rating scale, everywhere i look from the forum to men attracting wemon out in public i see and hear the same things like, that women was a hb 10, or oh she was definatly an hb 9, and honestly thats where the problem lies, When we "rate" a women were putting them on a pedestal by saying there above all the other girls ive talked to today beacuse shes smoking hot, and it puts alot of pressure on you beacuse shes not just a women shes an hb10, where as if you just cut that scale out she becomes just another women and its so much easier to apporach and talk,so instead of "rating" her look at her as just another cute girl that you can be cool with,the big point is this how you percive wemon defines how you act around wemon.

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Id rather be the one in a relationship instead of some guy id pretend to be...

you are totally right.

'Wemon' all have different qualities and attitudes. Some girls that are smoking hot, don't have that special magical spell around them that attracts you even more. I don't even want to say that they aren't 10's for looks, but for the real picky guys they sure are.

Not much good either when they're smoking hot but when you run you're lines they're too dense to work with you're humour because they spent too much time doing they're make up and watching americas next top model to develop a decent personality

I don`t think i want to attract Wemon.
are "Wemon" just women with a pussy on their head and a head between legs?
or can anyone break this down?(please give me evolutional proof and Survival and Replication Value arguments)

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The rating scal is just a model to represent a millions of year old unconscious motivation. The thoughts are simply labels for automatic feelings men feel. sureit doesn't help to label the feeling, may even make it stronger, but attempting to ignore it won't make it go away.

The truth is what makes the difference is the difference between having need and having desire.

Need is unattractive.

Desire is attractive.

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^that's deep. How does one get rid of need and transform it into desire? Why does one need and when does one desire?

well jpmorganjr im not saying you cant say this girls cute or oh shes ugly, but when you put a label like shes an hb 9 it builds a wall between you and approaching her beacuse all the sudden she becomes this women unlike any other in the bar or setting.. when really why not just think of her as a cute girl, it makes her seem less special beacuse you can always approach a cute girl anytime... it takes alot of the "anxiety" away when shes just a woman... its all about how we perceive wemon and the subconious pressure we put on ourselves when we label them.

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Id rather be the one in a relationship instead of some guy id pretend to be...

So we have stronger AA when we target a HB9 compared to a HB6 or HB7.

Is the problem that we are ranking the women in the first place, as you suggest? That we automatically put them on a pedestal in the first place and out of our league? We think they are too good for us? Say I'm a 7, no way I can open a 10 without stuttering and with total confidence I can open say a HB6/7.

I don't think the problem is the scale or that we rate women. It serves as a good indicator for how often/how many times we should neg. Higher the rating, we need to neg and show her that her beauty has no power over us. Lower the rating, the neg's may be taken the wrong way and we could look like a legit douche.

Okay, Salag, get to your point. My point is the problem for AA is not that we rate girl X as a HB9 and girl Y as HB6. The problem is that we talk ourselves into thinking better looking girls won't fall for us. That they wont listen to us, won't let us open, that they are much more likely to reject us than somebody we consider not so good looking.

I believe that you just need more inner confidence to approach that HB10, instead of getting rid of the scale altogether.

To be honest if i see a female i want to talk to and if i think about talking to her i experience AA but if i just go in without thinking and just wing it, im able to express myself more and i come off more natural then if i was stuck in my head playing out the scenes of what would happen, so the moral of the story is just do it, if you stop and think about it your inner chode is going to stop and mess you up, so if you see a girl you fancy just walk up to her and see what happens

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untld is exactly right, i dont know maybe its beacuse im more of a natural game type of guy, i dont bother putting a hot scale on wemon, theres no point to it when you can just say she was hot, and it just makes a barrier in your own mind why she was harder to approach, like "oh i got nervous when approaching her beacuse she was a 10 or a 9" when really if you approach her without the scaled mindset its so mutch easier and more natural to approach, instead ive learned a technique that reverses the scale to improve your game, its called the value scale and its kind of like seeing the matrix in social interactions, for instance

a guy whos a 6 is suplacative and always seeking approval from others

a guy whos a 7 is the agressive over-alpha male who gets value from threatning other guys around him, getting super defensive walking around with an ape posture

a guy whos a 8 is the competitive guy who gets his value from putting others beneath him prime example is the guy who always dhv's, if he was really so cool he wouldnt havta talk about it... he'll constantly try and one up whatever you do

a guy whos a 9 is what every pick up artist should goal to be he's the fun party guy that gives out value like candy, who everyone wants to be around, he doesnt supplicate or get aggressive he wont put another person beneath him and can deal with the other numbers.
a 10 would be like jesus to be honest lol, it didnt matter who you were you were getting value and he didnt mess up.

thats helped my game and it applies to every situation with wemon, you can see which number your acting like as well as people in the group and how to deal with them.

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Id rather be the one in a relationship instead of some guy id pretend to be...

Ratings certainly don't help and probably make it worse. You are adding a cognitive element that empowers your fear motivating belief already. However, it is not her hotness that scares you. It is the potential of failure and social pressure.

If a hot woman unknowingly dropped her keys, you would have no problem "approaching" her on the street. If she was simply just walking by, you would.

Same woman. Same hotness. Different intention.

In the first it was about giving, in the second taking.

Taking comes from need.

Giving comes from fullness. Fullness can include desire.

For more on this get my "How to Get Girls by Giving" audio on my website at 80% off using code "puaforum".

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