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i often see guys struggling with text game and asking questions regarding text game. So i am going to share my basic text game rules that i myself follow(this post is largely inspired by sinn with a few twists of my own)
1. NEVER SEND MULTIPLE TEXT MESSAGES WITHOUT RECEIVING A RESPONSE.
It's one of the most misunderstood rule of the text game. Ofcourse, it's a good thing to exchange a ton of text messages with girls. Its fun. It builds conspiracy into the interaction and helps to make the girl comfortable enough to meet up with you or atleast talk on call. So you are progressing in the game but there is a problem if you are not getting responses to every text you send and you keep sending them you are going to look needy. Remember, never send more than one more form of communication to a girl without getting a response.
2. USE AS MANY WORDS AS YOU CAN
Many guys get stuck about what should they right? How long the text messages should be? And the answer is use as many words as you can. The rule of,"keep the communication brief" only applies if you don't know what you are doing. If you have a good understanding of humour, open loops, sexual escalation then the more words you text, the better. The only exception to this is if she is giving short replies, then you also wanna do the same.
3.20 MINUTES RULE
Sinn has what he calls 15 minutes rules but i added 5 more minutes to it. Notice how long does it take for a girl to reply you? Then add 20 more minutes to it before you reply back to her. But if she is texting about 20 minutes late then you dont wanna add more 20 minutes to it and can reply after 20 minutes instead of 40.
4. USE EMOTIONS SPARINGLY TO HEIGHTEN THEIR EFFECTIVENESS
There are three general ways you want to use emotions
1. Smily face should be used while giving compliments or trying to convey happiness
2. Winkies should be used to show girls that you are teasing them or while using sexual innuendos.
3. Lastly we have tongue. These are used when you are obviously teasing a girl or messing with her. These can also be used in role plays
5. DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE RANDOM
This is a huge problem that most guys have. They treat text very formally ,"how was your day?" "what are you doing today?"
we want to avoid that kind of chat unless its part of a back and forth communication.
You want to be creative. Text likes," i am in line at the (whereever) and i want to know if you can actually die of boredom. Stop thinking about me, my ears are burning"
"i was in a (place name), sexshop (if you are brave) and in a weird way it made me think of you"
6. GIVE GIRLS TASKS
That's what bradrock also says to do. Its a great way to build momentum and set rules. Start small like by asking if they know any chines area in the blah blah area. Then you can escalate by saying them to send you sweet or sexy text messages. Its vital that you get the girl doing things for you via texts.
7. TEASE GIRLS SEXUALLY
This is where you want to gain power. You want to make sure that every time text messages turn sexual, you are the first one to end it. This way you can keep the "her being sexually agressive frame". Role plays and humour are the best ways to tease girls sexually. You want to make sure they are a part of your text repertoire.
8. ALWAYS ALTERNATE BETWEEN HOT AND COLD TEXTS
Setting a rhythm is one of the keys to text messages. You need to constantly balance three types of messages: compliments, sexual comments and and releases.
This is the best way to escalate interaction, because alternating hot and cold messages allows women to get more comfortable being hit on or aroused sexually. You should try to draw the releases as for as possible to preserve the sexual tenstion.
9. BE AWARE OF LOGISTICS
You can use text messages to find out where she lives in relation to you and with whom. You can also use it to give her directions when she is coming to meet up.
10. KNOW WHEN TO MOVE UP THE LADDER
If you are serious about getting the girl out, dont text it. It is always a better idea to go for meet up over the call. As soon as it becomes obvious that both of you are going to meet up , make sure that you get 15 to 30 minutes comfort building call in which you handle the logistics.
I hope it helps many of you and answers many of your questions.ending them you are going to look needy. Remember, never send more than one more form of communication to a girl without getting a response.
2. USE AS MANY WORDS AS YOU CAN
Many guys get stuck about what should they right? How long the text messages should be? And the answer is use as many words as you can. The rule of,"keep the communication brief" only applies if you don't know what you are doing. If you have a good understanding of humour, open loops, sexual escalation then the more words you text, the better. The only exception to this is if she is giving short replies, then you also wanna do the same.
3.20 MINUTES RULE
Sinn has what he calls 15 minutes rules but i added 5 more minutes to it. Notice how long does it take for a girl to reply you? Then add 20 more minutes to it before you reply back to her. But if she is texting about 20 minutes late then you dont wanna add more 20 minutes to it and can reply after 20 minutes instead of 40.
4. USE EMOTIONS SPARINGLY TO HEIGHTEN THEIR EFFECTIVENESS
There are three general ways you want to use emotions
1. Smily face should be used while giving compliments or trying to convey happiness
2. Winkies should be used to show girls that you are teasing them or while using sexual innuendos.
3. Lastly we have tongue. These are used when you are obviously teasing a girl or messing with her. These can also be used in role plays
5. DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE RANDOM
This is a huge problem that most guys have. They treat text very formally ,"how was your day?" "what are you doing today?"
we want to avoid that kind of chat unless its part of a back and forth communication.
You want to be creative. Text likes," i am in line at the (whereever) and i want to know if you can actually die of boredom. Stop thinking about me, my ears are burning"
"i was in a (place name), sexshop (if you are brave) and in a weird way it made me think of you"
6. GIVE GIRLS TASKS
That's what bradrock also says to do. Its a great way to build momentum and set rules. Start small like by asking if they know any chines area in the blah blah area. Then you can escalate by saying them to send you sweet or sexy text messages. Its vital that you get the girl doing things for you via texts.
7. TEASE GIRLS SEXUALLY
This is where you want to gain power. You want to make sure that every time text messages turn sexual, you are the first one to end it. This way you can keep the "her being sexually agressive frame". Role plays and humour are the best ways to tease girls sexually. You want to make sure they are a part of your text repertoire.
8. ALWAYS ALTERNATE BETWEEN HOT AND COLD TEXTS
Setting a rhythm is one of the keys to text messages. You need to constantly balance three types of messages: compliments, sexual comments and and releases.
This is the best way to escalate interaction, because alternating hot and cold messages allows women to get more comfortable being hit on or aroused sexually. You should try to draw the releases as for as possible to preserve the sexual tenstion.
9. BE AWARE OF LOGISTICS
You can use text messages to find out where she lives in relation to you and with whom. You can also use it to give her directions when she is coming to meet up.
10. KNOW WHEN TO MOVE UP THE LADDER
If you are serious about getting the girl out, dont text it. It is always a better idea to go for meet up over the call. As soon as it becomes obvious that both of you are going to meet up , make sure that you get 15 to 30 minutes comfort building call in which you handle the logistics.
I hope it helps many of you and answers many of your questions.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:09 am 
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i often see guys struggling with text game and asking questions regarding text game. So i am going to share my basic text game rules that i myself follow(this post is largely inspired by sinn with a few twists of my own)
1. NEVER SEND MULTIPLE TEXT MESSAGES WITHOUT RECEIVING A RESPONSE.
It's one of the most misunderstood rule of the text game. Ofcourse, it's a good thing to exchange a ton of text messages with girls. Its fun. It builds conspiracy into the interaction and helps to make the girl comfortable enough to meet up with you or atleast talk on call. So you are progressing in the game but there is a problem if you are not getting responses to every text you send and you keep sending them you are going to look needy. Remember, never send more than one more form of communication to a girl without getting a response.
2. USE AS MANY WORDS AS YOU CAN
Many guys get stuck about what should they right? How long the text messages should be? And the answer is use as many words as you can. The rule of,"keep the communication brief" only applies if you don't know what you are doing. If you have a good understanding of humour, open loops, sexual escalation then the more words you text, the better. The only exception to this is if she is giving short replies, then you also wanna do the same.
3.20 MINUTES RULE
Sinn has what he calls 15 minutes rules but i added 5 more minutes to it. Notice how long does it take for a girl to reply you? Then add 20 more minutes to it before you reply back to her. But if she is texting about 20 minutes late then you dont wanna add more 20 minutes to it and can reply after 20 minutes instead of 40.
4. USE EMOTIONS SPARINGLY TO HEIGHTEN THEIR EFFECTIVENESS
There are three general ways you want to use emotions
1. Smily face should be used while giving compliments or trying to convey happiness
2. Winkies should be used to show girls that you are teasing them or while using sexual innuendos.
3. Lastly we have tongue. These are used when you are obviously teasing a girl or messing with her. These can also be used in role plays
5. DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE RANDOM
This is a huge problem that most guys have. They treat text very formally ,"how was your day?" "what are you doing today?"
we want to avoid that kind of chat unless its part of a back and forth communication.
You want to be creative. Text likes," i am in line at the (whereever) and i want to know if you can actually die of boredom. Stop thinking about me, my ears are burning"
"i was in a (place name), sexshop (if you are brave) and in a weird way it made me think of you"
6. GIVE GIRLS TASKS
That's what bradrock also says to do. Its a great way to build momentum and set rules. Start small like by asking if they know any chines area in the blah blah area. Then you can escalate by saying them to send you sweet or sexy text messages. Its vital that you get the girl doing things for you via texts.
7. TEASE GIRLS SEXUALLY
This is where you want to gain power. You want to make sure that every time text messages turn sexual, you are the first one to end it. This way you can keep the "her being sexually agressive frame". Role plays and humour are the best ways to tease girls sexually. You want to make sure they are a part of your text repertoire.
8. ALWAYS ALTERNATE BETWEEN HOT AND COLD TEXTS
Setting a rhythm is one of the keys to text messages. You need to constantly balance three types of messages: compliments, sexual comments and and releases.
This is the best way to escalate interaction, because alternating hot and cold messages allows women to get more comfortable being hit on or aroused sexually. You should try to draw the releases as for as possible to preserve the sexual tenstion.
9. BE AWARE OF LOGISTICS
You can use text messages to find out where she lives in relation to you and with whom. You can also use it to give her directions when she is coming to meet up.
10. KNOW WHEN TO MOVE UP THE LADDER
If you are serious about getting the girl out, dont text it. It is always a better idea to go for meet up over the call. As soon as it becomes obvious that both of you are going to meet up , make sure that you get 15 to 30 minutes comfort building call in which you handle the logistics.
I hope it helps many of you and answers many of your questions.ending them you are going to look needy. Remember, never send more than one more form of communication to a girl without getting a response.
2. USE AS MANY WORDS AS YOU CAN
Many guys get stuck about what should they right? How long the text messages should be? And the answer is use as many words as you can. The rule of,"keep the communication brief" only applies if you don't know what you are doing. If you have a good understanding of humour, open loops, sexual escalation then the more words you text, the better. The only exception to this is if she is giving short replies, then you also wanna do the same.
3.20 MINUTES RULE
Sinn has what he calls 15 minutes rules but i added 5 more minutes to it. Notice how long does it take for a girl to reply you? Then add 20 more minutes to it before you reply back to her. But if she is texting about 20 minutes late then you dont wanna add more 20 minutes to it and can reply after 20 minutes instead of 40.
4. USE EMOTIONS SPARINGLY TO HEIGHTEN THEIR EFFECTIVENESS
There are three general ways you want to use emotions
1. Smily face should be used while giving compliments or trying to convey happiness
2. Winkies should be used to show girls that you are teasing them or while using sexual innuendos.
3. Lastly we have tongue. These are used when you are obviously teasing a girl or messing with her. These can also be used in role plays
5. DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE RANDOM
This is a huge problem that most guys have. They treat text very formally ,"how was your day?" "what are you doing today?"
we want to avoid that kind of chat unless its part of a back and forth communication.
You want to be creative. Text likes," i am in line at the (whereever) and i want to know if you can actually die of boredom. Stop thinking about me, my ears are burning"
"i was in a (place name), sexshop (if you are brave) and in a weird way it made me think of you"
6. GIVE GIRLS TASKS
That's what bradrock also says to do. Its a great way to build momentum and set rules. Start small like by asking if they know any chines area in the blah blah area. Then you can escalate by saying them to send you sweet or sexy text messages. Its vital that you get the girl doing things for you via texts.
7. TEASE GIRLS SEXUALLY
This is where you want to gain power. You want to make sure that every time text messages turn sexual, you are the first one to end it. This way you can keep the "her being sexually agressive frame". Role plays and humour are the best ways to tease girls sexually. You want to make sure they are a part of your text repertoire.
8. ALWAYS ALTERNATE BETWEEN HOT AND COLD TEXTS
Setting a rhythm is one of the keys to text messages. You need to constantly balance three types of messages: compliments, sexual comments and and releases.
This is the best way to escalate interaction, because alternating hot and cold messages allows women to get more comfortable being hit on or aroused sexually. You should try to draw the releases as for as possible to preserve the sexual tenstion.
9. BE AWARE OF LOGISTICS
You can use text messages to find out where she lives in relation to you and with whom. You can also use it to give her directions when she is coming to meet up.
10. KNOW WHEN TO MOVE UP THE LADDER
If you are serious about getting the girl out, dont text it. It is always a better idea to go for meet up over the call. As soon as it becomes obvious that both of you are going to meet up , make sure that you get 15 to 30 minutes comfort building call in which you handle the logistics.
I hope it helps many of you and answers many of your questions.
In my experience, #1 and #3 are both silly.

For #1, sometimes its helpful to send a second text/call. Perhaps she was busy when she got your first text/call and then later forgot about it.

#3 is just silly...shouldn't even have to explain why.

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you didnt understand what 1 and 3 means. So, ok, i will explain them for you and also for those who think the same way as you do.
1. Not sending another text rule applies for 24 hours. Means if she ignores your text or call, you are not going to do it again that day. Next day, you can.
And if a girl was busy when you texted her and later on she forgot then your initiall game was not good enough. A girl infact should be waiting for your text messages. And whats wrong in sending her two messages in the same day?
She didnt respond your first text and now when you gets your second text what she is going to think,"ah, its that guy, i met at blah blah blah, he also sent me a text in the morning, i forgot to or didnt reply and now he texted me again" and that my friend is never going to help you. Its ok to send 2 or even 5 text messaages without getting a response from her after you have sex with her or are in a relationship with her but in the early stages of the game it's NO, NO.
3. For point number 3, see this
you, "hey, you didnt tell me about the party you went to last night"
she(after 15 minutes),"that was boring)
you(instant reply)," i thought you are going to love that party coz you really love the party thing"
she(17 minutes late),"i do like the parties but that party kinda sucked"
you(instant reply),"may be you didnt get what you were looking for, fun time"
she(13 minutes late),"yeah, boring people, and a few creepy guys, terrible it was"
you(instant reply),"cool"
did you notice something? Do you understand now what i meant by 20 minute rule?
In this example that guy has got tight phone game but timing is gonna ruin it. She knows how she is replying and how you are.
And if you had followed the 20 minute rule, it would have done many things that are good
1. It could have conveyed if she is busy enough to reply late and then you are.
2. It would have conveyed that if she wants the interaction to be quick, then she would also have to be quick.
3. It would have conveyed that you are not some kind of creep who doesnt understand social behaviours at all.
Now my friend, who is silly here?

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you didnt understand what 1 and 3 means. So, ok, i will explain them for you and also for those who think the same way as you do.
1. Not sending another text rule applies for 24 hours. Means if she ignores your text or call, you are not going to do it again that day. Next day, you can.
And if a girl was busy when you texted her and later on she forgot then your initiall game was not good enough. A girl infact should be waiting for your text messages. And whats wrong in sending her two messages in the same day?
She didnt respond your first text and now when you gets your second text what she is going to think,"ah, its that guy, i met at blah blah blah, he also sent me a text in the morning, i forgot to or didnt reply and now he texted me again" and that my friend is never going to help you. Its ok to send 2 or even 5 text messaages without getting a response from her after you have sex with her or are in a relationship with her but in the early stages of the game it's NO, NO.
3. For point number 3, see this
you, "hey, you didnt tell me about the party you went to last night"
she(after 15 minutes),"that was boring)
you(instant reply)," i thought you are going to love that party coz you really love the party thing"
she(17 minutes late),"i do like the parties but that party kinda sucked"
you(instant reply),"may be you didnt get what you were looking for, fun time"
she(13 minutes late),"yeah, boring people, and a few creepy guys, terrible it was"
you(instant reply),"cool"
did you notice something? Do you understand now what i meant by 20 minute rule?
In this example that guy has got tight phone game but timing is gonna ruin it. She knows how she is replying and how you are.
And if you had followed the 20 minute rule, it would have done many things that are good
1. It could have conveyed if she is busy enough to reply late and then you are.
2. It would have conveyed that if she wants the interaction to be quick, then she would also have to be quick.
3. It would have conveyed that you are not some kind of creep who doesnt understand social behaviours at all.
Now my friend, who is silly here?
I understood both rules completely and even after your second explanation I still think their completely unnecessary.

As for the first one, I use an example from my life that has happened way more than once.

Me: *sends a text in the morning telling whatever girl to come out that night with me for drinks."

Her: says she might be busy but will let me know.

Me: tells her ok.

***Few hours has passed and she hasn't told me anything so I send a follow up text.***

Me: Going out for those drinks. Meet me there out front?

Her: Sure! see ya soon!

That general outline has happened many times in my life but if I followed your silly rule, I would have never gotten the meet up with those girls.

As for #3... do you honestly not see how purposely waiting a set amount of minutes to text back is not only lame but insecure and needy? Stop trying to play silly head games with women and be real and genuine with them and you wills ee your results with them improve.

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over to other friends and readers. Lets see what they say

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and as for as being, "geniune" is concerned then trust me, all guys who fail miserably with women are usually being geniune with women. They like them? They tell them. They want to be with them? They chase them. They want to text them, they do regardless of the responses. Feels damn alpha? Fuck, it gets 9 out of 10 guys rejected. Its not being "geniune" that gets you the girl. Its being"geniune in the right way" that gets you the girl. And if just being,"genuine" gets you the girl, then you don't need this forum, then you don't need to advise guys here, then you don't need to read game related material and the mind games.

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Senese i'm a fan of not tearing down something without offering another solution, I present to you my view of phone game. Actually, its more of Vin DiCarlo's view of phone game sense his model worked so damn well for me I never really had to change much to have it work well and consistent for me.

1) Phone/text game should be used for ONE purpose..to get her to meet up with you. Thats it. Leave all escalation, comfort building, whatever for face to face meeting.

2) Text her something that will make her want to text you back, something that intrigues her.

3) When she text back start making things sexual. An easy way to do this is misinterpretation.

3) Within a few messages get logistics and set up a time to hang out.

Thats it. Simple, effective, free of any silly bull shit.

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and as for as being, "geniune" is concerned then trust me, all guys who fail miserably with women are usually being geniune with women. They like them? They tell them. They want to be with them? They chase them. They want to text them, they do regardless of the responses. Feels damn alpha? Fuck, it gets 9 out of 10 guys rejected. Its not being "geniune" that gets you the girl. Its being"geniune in the right way" that gets you the girl. And if just being,"genuine" gets you the girl, then you don't need this forum, then you don't need to advise guys here, then you don't need to read game related material and the mind games.
this is so rediculous it isn't funny, if you have abundance, you communicate abundance, no need to fake it, get lots of numbers, don't be needy, you can break nearly all these rules and still get the girl, rules 1,2,3,4 are all fairly irrelivant, especially the 20 minutes rule, wtf is that?

and your saying being genuine, doesn't get you girls? have you ever tried it? i bet your lay count goes up...


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i am saying being geniunine in the right way gets you the girl? And wtf? You are here talking about for the sake of talking? You say something and i would believe it to be true? What are you? A saint? :D
i explained whatever i said with examples and reasons and you are just talking without any example or reasons as to why its wrong? Lol dudes :D
and in the end, i got my own way, you got your own. Don't like my mine? Go your way. But please next time you say something to me, come with solid reasons and examples.
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...and you are just talking without any example or reasons as to why its wrong?....
Actually I did post an example. Read again.

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let me get direct here.
1. Why not sending her another text if she does not reply you is wrong?
2. Why waiting to reply her back when she is respoding you late is wrong?
Come with your exmples and reasons and i will get back to you

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let me get direct here.
1. Why not sending her another text if she does not reply you is wrong?
2. Why waiting to reply her back when she is respoding you late is wrong?
Come with your exmples and reasons and i will get back to you
As I already posted....

As for the first one, I use an example from my life that has happened way more than once.

Me: *sends a text in the morning telling whatever girl to come out that night with me for drinks."

Her: says she might be busy but will let me know.

Me: tells her ok.

***Few hours has passed and she hasn't told me anything so I send a follow up text.***

Me: Going out for those drinks. Meet me there out front?

Her: Sure! see ya soon!

That general outline has happened many times in my life but if I followed your silly rule, I would have never gotten the meet up with those girls.

As for the 20 minute rule, it stems from insecurity. Besides thats, correct me if im wrong but you have a dick and balls. As a man you should go for what you want, not pussy foot around and play silly head games. Its needy, its insecure, and its inefficient.

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let me get direct here.
1. Why not sending her another text if she does not reply you is wrong?
2. Why waiting to reply her back when she is respoding you late is wrong?
Come with your exmples and reasons and i will get back to you
As I already posted....

As for the first one, I use an example from my life that has happened way more than once.

Me: *sends a text in the morning telling whatever girl to come out that night with me for drinks."

Her: says she might be busy but will let me know.

Me: tells her ok.

***Few hours has passed and she hasn't told me anything so I send a follow up text.***

Me: Going out for those drinks. Meet me there out front?

Her: Sure! see ya soon!

That general outline has happened many times in my life but if I followed your silly rule, I would have never gotten the meet up with those girls.

As for the 20 minute rule, it stems from insecurity. Besides thats, correct me if im wrong but you have a dick and balls. As a man you should go for what you want, not pussy foot around and play silly head games. Its needy, its insecure, and its inefficient.
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you didn't still answer the first question.
WHY IST IT WRONG to not send her the second text if she ignores your first text?
And
you are telling me that, "waiting 20 minutes to reply a girl is needy and insecure?" not responding the girl right away is wrong?
Are you awake? Who taught you game? :D
ok would be kind enough to elabore on, "why it's needy and insecure to not respond right away?
And yeah, i have a dick. Am i supposed to just walk upto a girl, remove her pants and start fucking? :D come on man! I am gonna die of jokes

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:08 am 
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you didn't still answer the first question.
I realize english is not your first language so I'll put this in as clear of english as I possibly can:

It is wrong because it will make you pass up many opportunities to actually meet up with the girl your texting. If you still don't understand what I'm saying, re-read my example in my last post. Notice how I texted her twice? because i did (and broke your rule) I was able to meet up with her. If I followed your rule, I probably wouldn't have met up with her.

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