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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:18 pm 
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Do you have to be pretty to pick up a HB10 or HB9?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:30 pm 
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Pretty? Good looking is a better term I reckon. Many PUA's
say that looks absolutely do not matter, aslong as you
are congruent in your game and do it well you cant fail.
Mystery has had students looking like bums and they've
gamed women of very high caliber. If you are concerned
about your physical appearance you can always work out
and improve on yourself on the outside to get more confidence
with women.

Long story short, no, you dont have to be pretty.

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Fuck it, no model will ever fuck a dude that looks like he just came out af trailer. You will at least have to do some effort in trying to be properly dressed and stuff.
Looks matter but not as much as proper grooming and attitude. But thinking you can get yourself a get out of jail for free card on the looks departement: hellz no broheme.


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Exactly, but yeah man just by grooming yourself, dressing well and adding a
fragrance goes a long way. Remember, girls are approached everyday
by guys who appear on GQ, or an average good looking bloke or just douchebag
who thinks he has game but crashes and burns.

Have you even seen VH1's THE PICKUP ARTIST? Mystery hand picks
guys who are nerds, have no class, no social skills, high school geeks and
rejects with not a shred of confidence. Mystery then molds this guys
into PUA's just by stripping away their geeky clothing, getting them
sent to salons to get cleaned up...and before you know it, these chaps
dont look to bad and they approach, pick up , number close and
make out with HB10's!

It's all in the way you present yourself. Girls love confidence and the
way you convey it. It's cheesy and cliche but thats the bottom line.
If you can make them believe you're confident and you don't give
a shit what anyone else thinks but you value her...you will be attractive to them.

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you dont have to be pretty, but you have to take care of yourself. It means that you respect yourself. Have some style, be proud of who you are and take care of the hygiene!


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Thanks guys, the reason why I asked this question is becouse the least day's.. I don't know how to explain, I don't feel really good, I am a little bit depressive, when I say hello to a girl she don't say anything back. I'm confused. help me :(

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good looks, money (represented by your style and what you are driving if she sees it), connections, how many other girls want you
this is your passive value (the value she first sees also one of the most important there is a certain physical line of would fuck and would not fuck that all girls have in their head, altering this line can be difficult if you are below it, if you are above it all you really have to do is bring some value, and don't cock block yourself and get her to invest in you)

social value, this is represented by your dominance, your ability to lead, your confidence, your humor, your body language, how many people seek rapport with you, your ability to calibrate (disinterest for disinterest, interest for interest) your ability to read and follow social cues and recognize social situations and read body language, how reactive you are (the goal is not at all)

emotional value how much you offer her positive emotions, how much you can make her laugh/feel good, this is usually done through bring a good energy to the interaction and having strong positive self-talk/sub-communications


people go around over negging all the time, and being negative when they start, because some wizard in the top hat had an advanced theory to lower a persons social value using a negative form of validation, that he understands, but when he gives this great tool to an AFC the AFC, goes fucking crazy OMG IF I JUST RIP ON THIS GIRL FOR 2 HOURS, SHE WILL WANT TO SUCK MY COCK, not the case my friend, the idea is more to give the girl you are gaming the impression that when you first met her, you perceived her as low value and she won you over, and any form of negative validation also goes with the theory that intermittent rewarding is psychologically more effective then only constant rewarding, (if a person only kisses your ass, their compliments and praise start to hold less weight then a person who occasionally says negative things about you as well, it creates the illusion that the persons compliments are more genuine therefor they have more impact) this is why teasing C+F style is also effective, AFC's usually take this too far as well, being a complete douchebag asshole, is not usually effective,
unless you are really really Derek Zoolander good looking and she has low self esteem

chief even wrote a post related to it in the lounge, soc-psych-amp-pu-overjustification-amp- ... 21096.html


mostly girls will be attracted to the lifestyle and value you can bring them, how much security you hold, physical, emotional, and monetary,

you first bring them value, then you get them to invest in you (qualify themselves/sexually escalate), once a girl has invested alot in you, it is difficult for her to back out (after sex girls get attached, before sex, you are easily disposable) the trick is getting good at bringing value to women, so that they invest,

everyone needs to develop a different game that suits them, for example, trying to focus on being a challenge/being disinterested and mysterious, for that kind of game to work, you would first need to project a shit ton of value, (mystery does this by being tall and good looking and focusing on social value, he first perceives the girl as low social value, and actively convinces her he is disinterested, when she throws ioi's in an attempt to get the MM practitioner to validate her (return the ioi's) the MM practitioner instead qualifys her forcing investment while physically escalating , the girl invests and receives positive validation for her investment and the challenging high social value, high passive value male, becomes a top pickup artist and famous for it, because she slowly wins the challenging mysterious man over, with his fuzzy top hat and unique personality, (that now every 2nd guy in America over 18yrs old is trying to copy), she finally wins him over, they vibe and get comfortable with each other, an emotional connection is formed, the go off alone into the sun, to fuck in the back of a car, THEE END

if you are not projecting a high amount of social value/good enough level of passive value this kind of game might be tricky to pull off

if you have almost no value, but you just walk up with high energy, and go direct, a girl just assesses your passive value, gives you the red light or the green light, much less game required, you can force her to invest or piss off, much sooner, NOOO TIME IS WASTED!! HURRAY,

you see if you project high amount of social value/emotional value, but have very low passive value, there is a tendency, for a girl to keep you around for validation, be it from you or from her friends, she might even keep you as a boyfriend but not sleep with you, but more then likely you get to be an orbiter/friend/entertainer, that she can look at her friend and say, HEY BECKY LOOK AT THIS HIGH VALUE GUY THAT IS CHASING ME, ID NEVER GET WITH HIM, HE IS REJECTED, girls are afc value takers, just as much as guys are afc value takers, learn to recognize a value taker, and become indifferent to their games/ploys at attention seeking, if a girl likes you, and you are confident enough to lead and escalate, you should be able to pull off at the very least foreplay within 3 days



TL:DR YES LOOKS FUCKING MATTER, but it is all subjective, what is good looking to one girl, is ugly to another, some girls like fat guys only, some girls like huge muscular guys, some girls like skinny guys, but girls tend to look at the big picture alot more then guys do, guys almost all that matters is looks, but especially when it comes to girls who have alot of options, looks become more important, why go for the ugly alpha guy, when she can go for the model gorgeous alpha guy?, this being said still game them, don't be a pussy, girls love sex, and as long as you're above that line of fuckable, and you are cool as fuck and bring value, and don't cock block yourself by doing something stupid, you are getting your penis touched


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