I want to be able to pick these girls up, and go to their locations for close. I see them all the time at the gym and stuff.

Im in high school, but am mature and all that, so i dont think this aspect to be a problem (cmon, look at my name, im no schmuck!)

I am about to reread the Game, then go on to Myst. Method v2, but although i think itll help alot with girls my age, how can I pick up ANY woman of any age group?

On my own i would think this feat would require maybe some annhilation method (I have this, not read tho) and may some DavDeang.'s mastery with women and 'on being a man'. And persistence and lots of alpha.

I still look like a teen, although im good looking, im not as muscular as the average adult. Well im 17 18 in december.

anything else?

Ill trade you some of my 23/f's for some 18/f's? lol

hardy har har

i bet ill be in the same raft when im older, but for now...ah, the illusory tastes of forbidden fruit!

Well I don't know about you, but I prefer older chicks, not that old, like 22-30 because from my experience 18 yr olds are just really not that great in bed.

As for picking up older women, just be mature and direct, women won't like playing games like younger girls do.

Thanks. I think I will incorporate a linear approach, and also evolution phase shift to accept me being younger and let her inhibitions melt away

unfortunately this is going to be quite a while away tho, , im just getting into the game

well your 18, so you can go to some 18 and over clubs. I'm 18, and I've picked up 23 and 24 year olds at clubs before. when they are under 26, from my expierence, you basicly run the same game. and to go to they're place to close, its all in the way you frame it.

good luck,

PB

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"frame it"... do you mean whos frame is stronger or how smooth my game is over there? Now that i think about it Ill probably have to read some kama sutra too...

I have gamed girls aged 18-38. They are all the same from your perspective. One thing to take into consideration is the older girls will try to break your frame more often. This is especially true if they are very independent.

My favorite neg for any girl older than I am is to call them a 'couger'.

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Double Your Dating by DD
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haha ya kama sutra totally! dont get in over your head kid, you dont have her in bed yet. the frame is kind of like how the convo is controlled. if you frame the convo in your benefit, you should be able to turn the convo to you guys going back to her place without actually saying it. But framing in straight def, hmm. When you control the interaction between you and another person(s), meaning you are the one that takes the convo from here to there, you kinda decide who its directed at and you decide where you want it to go. can anyone else kinda help me with this?

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i dunno the last part but u should attain the annhilation method, its friggin awesome, i think its better than myst meth, i have it in video, he talks about kinda what ur saying here

and yeah, kama sutra, once i go in the field i expect to get what i want, and dont wanna be missing endgame!

Honestly what ive noticed is older girls are much easier to talk to.. i was approaching a bunch of girls at a club the past summer the younger 18-19 year old girls were much harder to talk to than the 24-32 year old girls i approached and talked to more of the 24-32 year old girls than the younger ones...

Girls are the same from 8 to 80. It doesnt matter they have the same mentality. Its funny, but over time I have realised this. They can be good, bitchs, etc at any age. Same thing with sexual experiance. Some 18 year olds can be amazing, and some can suck. Some 30/f's can be great and some can suck.

My target range is 21-27...

Kinoesclator

REALLY man I feel u im also 17 and 18 in december and I am a teen but I'm only 5'7 which is kinda short but I am Muscular styll women who are in there 20's are mostly my height or a lil taller.

To be honest the only thing I can reccommend is maybe to lie about your age, I find most girls around there 20's want an older man or around there age, for the most part with some of them won't matter if you have the best game in the world there gonna decline simply based on age. However there is the odd exception so i'l have my fingers crossed for you

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If you go after the girls who are over their 30s, it's been said that they are more sexually active around that time than when they are 18. So they are more prone to being social with you.

Also, I don't think knowing the age matter much. I try not to bring it up but if they ever ask and find out they're much older, I basically tell them nonechalantly that age is nothing but a number anyway.

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