i have been trying to do mystery method for a while now, also have just been myself and made conversations while trying to touch and escalate, so far i actually am not doing to bad at getting phone numbers, mostly when i am just being myself, and a few girls have met up with me, but every time i get to the kiss, i get rejected, a few times i just tried to kiss without asking, kissed them on the lips and they just didnt kiss me back, i have no make outs, and most of the girls i have talked to and got numbers from told me that they really liked me and though i was really funny, but they were just not physically attracted to me but they wanted to be friends, i have never had any problem making friends, have had alot of guys/girls who are friends, i have been told quite a bit by girls that i am a great person, but i am now 24 and i have never had a girlfriend, never had a girl reciprocate kissing, never had any sort of sexual act performed on me, i am pretty confident, can start conversations fairly easily, have also tried going direct and have 100% rejection with it, indirect has gotten me friends, i sort of want to believe looks don't matter but i have basicly been told im a great person but not physically attractive, im overweight and have a physically unattractive face (not very symmetrical) with a large underbite, is it something im doing wrong, or should i just hit the gym a bunch and try to have a dentist fix my smile?

Yea most certainly you must. Looks do matter.

First of all, thanks for your honesty. Sometimes it can be difficult to open up, so it's appreciated.

As mentioned before, looks matter. Plain and simple.
You don't have to be a super star, but you have to become the best man you can be in order to attract women consistently. This means that no only you have to work on your game, but also on your image.

Being overweight, doesn't necessarily have to be a deal-breaker, as long as everything else about you is fine. For instance, if you are a bit overweight, but you have a good sense of fashion and style, a clean and fresh image, and some solid game to back you up, you shouldn't have a problem getting women.

Now, ask yourself: Am I the best I can be? Could my looks use some improvement? Are my nails, hair, teeth, and skin always clean? These are things that matter, and can make a big difference in your PUA path.

Also, if you consider that some weight could be lost, then by all means do so. Your level of success should increase as you get in better shape, as long as you don't disregard your practicing and improving your game.

Here's a pretty good reading in terms of physical appearance and style: http://www.bosproject.com/appearance-fo ... d=puastyle

Hope it helps, and feel free to send me a private message if you have more questions .

Good luck

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Look like you give a shit about yourself and a woman will infer that you may actually give a shit about her.

Yes, get your ass to the gym. Not in the least because you obviously know you should.

Act like you look good and you will look good.

Woman, unbelievably, can change how they visually perceive a man based on his attitude.

I knew these two hot girls, late twenties who weren't really that nice, and were talking shit about how ugly two guys that walked into the bar were. An hour later those two guys got up on stage and were the band that night. An hour after that the girls were doing everything they could to go home with the guys. Same dudes. Different impression. Different looks.

We are so fucking lucky as men that we can overcome looks easily. Women aren't as lucky unfortunately.

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bro i relate to you reading this post about you was like i was reading a post describing myself
looks do matter so you have to stay in shape and keep clean
but if you dont have a good personallity and a tight game you drive away any girl thats attracted to you
i usto way 300 pounds and be 5 feet tall i thought i was done growing i never wanted to leave the house i lost 100 pounds and i grew 10 inches cause i lost weight my face is more toned and im more confident and i noticed girls treat me diffrently girls i knew my whole life
we all know looks matter
and it sounds like your a funny cool dude your the kind of guy i wanna go clubin with and girls wanna talk to
do what feels right be urself but be your best self become alpha work on your game till you have girls eatin out of your hand and workout till you have girls aproaching you everywhere you go thats what were all here for to become better to become the best we can be to be alpha
good luck and just be urslelf

Looks do matter due to social proof etc... But that is easy fixable, i would start with a simple book, very easy to follow and the beuty is that you will se result from week to week and in 3 months you will be in shape, the name of the book is body for life, By phillips, after the 3 months, do p90 x by beach body and follow the body for life diet, just cut the cheat day, do a cheat meal, then do insanity and then do a p90x insanity hybrid, and then continue to do for ever p90x insanity hybrid, now if you have the money, do cross fit! Follow this link:


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yeah man, do the best you can, get out to the gym, get a trainer, go on a diet, see a dentist, everything matters, work on your self in every way you can to be the best person you can be

True words...

You NEED to CARE about yourself. Hit the gym as a medium-term project and watch your diet, but get real sharp clothing and, if necessary, teeth SPAM. Care for your skin and haircut, and get used to doing manicures!

Funny thing is, when you stand in front of the mirror in a well-fitting sharp outfit, well groomed and good smelling, you will get 50% of the positive vibes you need automatically. Getting the remaining 50% is not THAT hard.

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One more thing: with that outfit and grooming project: ask a female friend or a friend's female friend to help you. Honestly tell her your plan that you would like to look better and that you have no real clue on where to start. (cut out the sarging part). Compliment her on her great taste and ask for advice.

Make her go shopping with you. Keep asking her for her feedback and report positive remarks and humble successes in the next couple of months.

Women love to influence personalities, also to support conversion processs, and they love it if they are asked for their opinion AND money is spent and actions are taken based on their suggestions.

I personally have learned a good share of what I know about clothing and style from good platonic female friends with an interest for fashion.

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I started outdoor running and cycling years ago (beacuse it doesnt cost much) when I was overweight (bordering on obese). Running is great for losing weight. Calisthenic workouts like pushups and sit ups can also be done at home. Diet is also important - start with making subtle changes like skimmed milk instead of semi/whole etc.

I was 220lbs; I'm now 158lbs and still running and cycling (got the bug).

Fitness and vitality is important, mostly for your own sake, but also for your performances in the field.

Despite the health side it sounds like you're doing a great job in terms of getting numbers, dates etc... clearly self confidence isn't an issue for you which is a good thing. As you get fitter, it'll only get better...

mystery method sucks and most of the guys using mystery method have these problems. Mystery method is value based game, it is geared towards creating value based attraction, and value based attraction usually gets you friends. When i game, i dnt care for the value based attraction, i go for sexual attraction. And mostly get the girl

Yep!

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if you are talking about getting girls, then my friend, even a guy who knows nothing about pick up, gets girls. The reason we all are here is to improve our skillset, and talking about girls, our goal is not to get a girl or 2 girls, even a loser can get girls. Our goal is to get most of the girls that we approach. Our goal is to get high level girls and we can get and do get. Now here we are, helping you guys out. And again mystery method sucks, but if you like that site, i would recommend you go for magic bulletsproach. Our goal is to get high level girls and we can get and do get. Now here we are, helping you guys out. And again mystery method sucks, but if you like that site, i would recommend you go for magic bullets

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