Especially the harsh ones.

What do you think? Are any of these women relationship material. I had one my ex's respond well to a pretty mean neg, but the relationship was a roller coaster, headache, you name it. And once she got bored, she was on to the next guy. So from my experience, women who do respond well to this are good fucking material, and that's about it.

seems more just like an issue of congruence, if you are putting on an act, you can only keep the act up so long, it is like you are a piece of celery, put some peanut butter on the celery tastes good, but as soon as the peanut butter gets licked off, hey your still just a celery

I don't think a woman's response to a neg is a good measure for whether or not she's relationship material. At all. It's just one single factor.

I disagree. I believe a woman's response to negs is a clear indicator of her self-esteem, self-image, confidence, and egotism.

Women who respond to negs, do not have a good idea of who they are or what their value is, they look to the world around them to define them. The fact that a complete stranger could have that much control over her internal belief system, is an indicator of a poor boundary system. She doesn't have a psychological system set up to filter out information reasonably. A mature and confident women would have a set up rules on how she should handle insults or negative remarks, they would act rather than react. A mature woman would consider the source and context of the neg, and reject it rather than internalize it. But an immature woman would internalize all the negative feedback from the world and would not be able to distinguish the truth from lies, because she has no rules on interpreting criticisms, and she has no strong self-image to use to validate if criticisms are in fact accurate. Also an immature woman has a high level of egotism, since she defines herself based upon the opinions of others, rather than having a static internal self-image that is unchanged by others' opinions.

Basically, what I'm saying is that women who are psychological immature, will be more prone to respond to negs. Women who are young and unconfident. Women who breeze through life rather than having a set path. Women who are fickle and unstable. Women who are constantly trying to "fit in" or "keep up" with others. Women who have an inflated self-worth. Women who are "showy" or "dramatic". Women who follow and imitate others. These are the women, most prone to negs.

I'd say, one of the most important qualities in a woman you wish to be in a relationship in with, is a strong psychology. If a woman has too much internal baggage, it will eventually pollute the relationship.

i would support the terrible here. Women's response to a neck is not that important. We know women have mood swings and women's response to your neg mostly depends on what mood she is in when u neg her. If she had a bad day, or some other problem is on her mind, she may respond negatively to ur neg. On the other hand if she just won a lottery , she may not even hear your neg. So in the end, negs are just a part of game (often unncessory part) dnt base ur opinion abt a woman on negs

Nailed it.

The question wasn't, "Will women respond negatively toward negs?" Of course women will have mood swings and be more prone to anger depending on their mood. But that wasn't the question.

The question was, "If a neg does work on a woman, does that tell us anything about her, specifically if she will make a good girlfriend or not?"

and i have already answered it. Women's reaction to neg is not a good indicator of her being a gud gf or not.
Why?
As i already said that women have mood swings and if you base your opinion on her reaction to neg, then u are basing your opinion of being her a gud gf or not on her current mood. Is that gud? Never
you can't reality decide her being a good or bad gf untill you spend a bit of time with her, get to know her core values and see her reactions to different things.

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I never said you would know everything about a woman based on her reaction. But if I am going to be checking for red flags, being easily manipulated due to low self-esteem is high on my list.

I'm not talking about using a woman's anger as a gauge for her potential in a relationship.
I'm talking about seeing how easily a woman responds to basic ego manipulation, as a gauge for her potential in a relationship.

I'm not even talking about compatibility. That's a separate issue.

I'm saying, if I can very easily manipulate her ego, it's an indicator that she may not be mature psychologically. It's not saying necessarily that she won't make a good girlfriend. But with immaturity, comes a lot of other issues. Issues that I listed in my original post. Issues that could cause problems in a relationship.

Am I saying that you 100% decide if a woman would be a good girlfriend, based upon her response to a neg? No. But I am saying it's a very good guideline of underlying psychological issues which may make her a bad girlfriend. But it's just an indicator. It's just a red flag. Doesn't mean its 100% correct, but I believe my theory has some validity.

If you disagree with my theory, address what parts are incorrect and why. Simply stating that women have mood swings, doesn't disprove my theory. Mood swings are a given variable which will obviously cause some exceptions to this theory. But what have I posted that you specifically disagree with?

Personally I see it like this. If a girl is not strong enough to take my shit, then I am gonna eat her alive. So not interesting for a relationship!

Plus, Hey Kalel! Welcome back! Where have you been hiding!

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LOL.

But yeah I agree mostly. I don't neg unless I see a reason, and that reason is always congruent with my personality. Therefore my negs are used to communicate how I am, and she can take it or leave it from there. Whether she responds well to a neg doesn't really bother me either way, and I try to judge her on more than that, and haven't seen a pattern based on negs.

That said, everyone works differently. Your negs are probably very different from mine, and they may reveal something about the girls. So if you notice a pattern, it's probably true.

Exactly, and it also depends on how you deliver it and if she find you attractive or thinks you're a creep.

Relationship. You know how it is.

i agree with kalel on this one, negs are a cheap way to lower a girls esteem level and get her to despratley seek approval, and it only works on girls with already low self esteem, high status girls will blow you off if you try and neg them, honestly i rather bring girls to an equal level around me and make them feel good about themselves then lower there self esteem, that works great on all girls

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Negs work best on women with high status and high attractiveness. Try giving an ugly girl a neg, and she will be offended, since it's what she's used to. Tell a hot chick that she's "not as cute when she's mad" (or any other clever little neg) and you'll probably get somewhere.