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hot guy sexual = sexy
ugly guy sexual = creepy
sexuality+tension = attraction
rapport+connection = comfort
attraction + comfort = seduciton
attraction - comfort = buyers remorse / blowout
comfort - attraction = friend zone / lose interest (you are a pussy zone)
have to be ''creepy'' to get attraction, ignore the word, it simply is a guideline for how attractive the girl finds you when you go sexual,
treat it all as a shit test, perv/creepy/sicko - just control the frame, maintain congruence, if they are not into you, it becomes funny, or you get blown out, if they are into you, they become horny / compliant
you have to learn to calibrate the above equations for success, the problem in its self is not that of a linear equation, this is my perspective
Pumpington this is perhaps one of the worst false dichotomies I've ever seen posted on the forum. None of those "equations" matter even a bit.
I've seen guys who are "creepy" and they have had substantially more success than myself (I have no reason to complain). You seem to be using old recycled rhetoric. And while I agree with perhaps two or three of your points, the rest invariably fall into the
"useless" category and should collect more dust than coffins.
Especially comments on
"looks" and
"comfort", almost all are useless in my opinion. Comfort is never important when seducing. If your main effort is to establish comfort then you are certainly doing something wrong. Part of the creep factor is important when seducing a woman because it scares her and creates the tension you are seeking in part of your comment. Therefore, the issue of comfort is irrelevant. The only relevant points I've seen in your post are.
- Sexuality + tension = attraction (this true)
- Comfort - attraction= friend zone (true)
However, let’s take a look at the rest of your comments... *Sighs
- Attraction - comfort = buyer’s remorse/ blowout *(wrong)
(this is what warped was talking about when he said a person not clearly communicating their intentions, either this guy is too blunt or simply too oblivious to do things right).
- attraction + comfort= seduction *(wrong again)
"comfort" is definitely the killer of tension and attempting to add comfort is contradictory to your original intent.
- Hot/ugly comment, irrelevant self-limiting paradigm.
Generally you still use the words
"shit test" and this is definitely a mystery term. *(double sights)
You also assume comfort is irrelevant in a seduction, do me a favor, go out, field test opening, sexually direct, come up with one line that conveys sexuality, with a take-away, introduce this line as your opener, now go out the next night, field test, just opening and establishing some form of superficial comfort for the 1st, 2-5 minutes, just hook and open, then deliver the same sexual line, take note of the results....
as for your perspective on looks/comfort please elaborate, Hot looking guy reveals strong sexual intent, will be met with less resistance, and chances are, the word ''creepy'' is most likely to be replaced with, ''sexy''
Look, the point was that it is irrelevant, regardless, 'creepy/sexy', both pump BT, it is just a shit test/congruence test when a girl drops the c-bomb on you
as for self limiting beliefs, etc. regarding looks, I implore you to take a morbidly obese man with a physically un-attractive, A-symmetrical face, with poor hygiene and style, allow him to study pickup for as long as you want, Now place him in field, with a male model, the only arsenal the male model is allowed, is, you are cute, and the ability to answer questions and have a boring mundane conversation. The fact is looks are a factor, you can live in denial all you want, but they certainly matter, and can be a deal breaker for alot of girls, obviously your ability, is also important, females are naturally more selective in mate choice then men but assuming looks play 0 factor in female mating choice, is simply being naive.
thank you for the contrast, I will consider and weigh this idea. It would also be helpful If you spread some of your ideas, criticism is helpful, but when all you provide is criticism and negativity it is counter productive to progress. The how and why are of importance to me, as opposed to the, THIS IS USELESS.
CHAT
) or if this isn't attractive and they are just playing along for the fun of it, or because they think saying no or fighting back (he's even taller than me, and I'm huge. Even though he is indeed ugly as hell. I doubt saying "no" seriously, would result in anything, though) would look bad. I don't know and it really creeps me out how this happens too, but apparently him slapping everyone's asses - male and female - is a DHV, since he has girls talking to him almost always.
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