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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:43 pm 
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Listen, just be aware of your surroundings, the people around you, and JIVE with them. There are a million different ways to get the girl. . . One of which happens to be, "Hey, you're looking hot, blah, blah, blah. . ." - Sometimes it fits, sometimes it doesn't. No reason to go hunting for a bear with a fishing rod.


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Telling a girl she is cute isn't bad. It's just honest. All that value shit, MM terminology, it doesn't matter as much as guys make it seem. It makes every set you open turn into a videogame, where at the end the machine totals up the value points versus devalue points and gives you your final score. Yeah, rolling into the bar with a girl on each arm will make women assume you have something good going for you. But not every word and action will carry over some value equivalent,
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nor are girls thinking about it as much as you are.
Bingo! Actually, they don't think about it at all. That's the point. Do you think girls actually calculate their opportunity costs when swiping their credit cards for a 5k LV bag? No . . . the marketeers did all the calculating for them.


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If you give a shit - dont hide it. try to improve yourself so you dont think youre below her
If you dont give a shit - it means you naturally believe you are the shit (aka you think you deserve her just as much as she deserves you.... either that or youre arrogant)

but honestly, if you like a girl, youre gonna care to some degree, regardless. the point is to realize its ok if you get rejected (that was the confusion)

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What about in college or when theres other girls in the room youre planning on talking too later? In fact, Im sometimes scared to talk to more than 1-2 sets at the same time because Im scared theyll be like 'wow ... now he's hitting on them... whore' or in college where its a closed environment... word spreads and im scared ill be labeled as 'the guy who randomly goes up to girls and talks to them'

yes, you got a be careful with that cause social proof, the best way i like to talk to women, even though my game is not freaking talking, but anyways when i do talk, always a friendly guy, confident/cocky, something situational funny, no hidden intend. too many sets may show desperation, in college i like gaming girls from college outside of college, or from other colleges, because words and labels run fast.

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In my personal experience I've always found that when I find girls attractive and let them know, they really appreciate it. They can sense that I really appreciate them. Being appreciated feels good.

The point is it's not a tactic. I genuinely find them attractive. Does that mean I'm already invested? Hell no! It's not so important what their reaction to me is, so much as I expressed my truth in the moment. People are usually thankful for something real, it's refreshing.

Example:

Walk in the door, spot a 5'8" brunette HB with a black skirt, red corset that shows off her figure and boobs fantastically, with a large red ruby dotting the front of a black choker that gives her the appearance of a vampire/goth cat. There's a goth theme tonight, and she really went above and beyond. The last time I saw her it was a pirates vs. ninja's theme and she had an amazing ninja outfit. I couldn't keep my eyes off of her and I made sure she noticed.

Ebomb - Wow.. you look fucking hot!
HBninja - Well thank you :D

Then her friend, the one who runs the dance event, says "I was thinking the same I just didn't actually say it..." kinda meekly. HBninja turns to her and says "Well why the hell not?" playfully and semi-challenging. They start going back and forth with each other for a minute then I say "Haha you girls are amusing. Save me a dance later eh?"

HB gives me the same full body updown I gave her, and then adds in a dramatic pause. She's milking it and enjoying the moment. "Love to. And hey, thanks for having the guts to come right out with it earlier *she smile and me and elbow jabs her friend* "

Me "Anytime *wink*"
and I walk past them both to say hi to more people. I think I told 3-4 women that night some variation of compliment on their looks. A few others I complimented on a particular object of clothing. One girl I told she had "really good energy" and she lit up and told me it made her night.

I like being like that, it makes me feel good, as well as the people around me. From everything I can tell it's a vibe people like.


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This is gold from wrapped minds match my experiences:



Direct Game Exposed

The term “direct game” gets thrown around a lot here. But what exactly does it mean to “just go direct?”

Direct game is a very misunderstood concept here in our little community and its time for that to change. Its unfortunate but people seem to treat direct game (and “going direct”) to be some sort of tactic to use on women. This is horribly false.

Another good example of how direct game is misunderstood is how people have canned direct openers. Once upon a time I used to guilty of this as well. I used to approach women and be authentic and tell them exactly what I felt about them in that moment. It was authentic and real, never planned. 100% authentic feelings. Then, in order to streamline the opening process I came up with a canned “direct” opener. When I did that, opening wasn’t quite the success it used to be, that is, until I reverted back to being pure authentic. And thats what direct game truly is…

Being Authentic and 100% genuine in your intent, thoughts, and actions.

You can be doing direct game even if you open with a situational opener. Opening asking a chick for an opinion can be direct too so long as you actually want her opinion about something. (example: I was watching a debate on CNN at a coffee shop and I looked over and asked a chick which side of the argument she liked best)

Direct game isn’t some tactic you use, direct game is about expressing your true desire and being shameless about it. Its about being authentic and real with both yourself and the woman.

I’ll say it again…

Being direct is about expressing your true desires and being shameless about it.

Thats direct game. Its not a line, its not a tactic. Hope that helps to clear up some of the confusion and misconceptions.

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Cool thread and discussion.

I used to think like that. The thing is you're stuck in the ring mentality. You think with this PUA stuff you have some kind of ring that gives you super powers, the precious ring.
You want to ride behind the ring with your indirect openers.

But direct game will save you time. As someone said above you're actually taking away her powers for giving you bullshit, using you for validation without having sex and other stuff that will waste your time. She has to say yes or no. Either one is good. Yes, you're getting laid. No, you screened out a time waster.

The thing about direct is that you have to do it the right way. You want to be direct, but you want to be low key. Don't make a big deal of it.
Also, you want to set up as soon as possible that she caught your attention but you are screening to see if she's fun, and worth your time, in other words, beauty is not enough!!!

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To be fair mm is tailor towards 10, direct with 10, may bring problems..

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If you give a shit - dont hide it. try to improve yourself so you dont think youre below her
If you dont give a shit - it means you naturally believe you are the shit (aka you think you deserve her just as much as she deserves you.... either that or youre arrogant)

but honestly, if you like a girl, youre gonna care to some degree, regardless. the point is to realize its ok if you get rejected (that was the confusion)
Did you read what i wrote before? I guess you didnt. Let me explain again.
Not giving a shit means you are doing what you want and you dont care if others dont like it or not. Im not gonna tell the girl that shes hot just coz i think she might not like me saying that? Thats some bullshit. You talk about getting rejected. What the fuck is rejection? It only exists when you are looking for her reaction. I am not getting rejected, just interacting and going for what i want.


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