I just read a post on the forum and it sounded exactly like what happened with me.

I meet a girl a bar (hot spanish chick) and we hit it off. She gave me her number and said "you'd better message me"

I messaged her and organised a date.

On the date I kissed her at the end of the night. told her I had a good time and look forward to doing it again. she responded the same way.

Since then, I've asked if she would like to hang out again. and she flakes on me every-time.

What the hell happened? She's even said "I don't want you to lose interest" My only conclusion is she has other dudes on the go and I was like number 4 on the list.

Everything was going well until she flaked on me.

Why do you only get one chance to make it happen with girls?????

I feel like you need to somehow have to have sex with them from the very beginning then if she flakes at least you had a taste.

could be a long list of reasons, the results from phone numbers are wildly sparatic, that is why if your doing # closes, you should just play a numbers game, you can try to establish a large base of attraction and comfort, and seed a date, and time bridge, and get a girl to qualify she will remember you, and she wants to see you again, but really it will get you just about the same results as if you head to a local high traffic area, walk around telling girls you think they are (insert genuine compliment here), find out some shit about them, give them the old well it was nice meeting you, whats your number ill text you for a drink next week, a quick hug, and a kiss on the cheek and move on to the next one,

just wait till you experience this frustrating shit with dates, take a girl out, escalate enough so she knows you want to fuck her, but not enough to actually get laid, then she goes flake mode

why are you "asking" her if she wants to "hang out"?

shouldn't you be telling her?

idk, i'm no pua. but it seems like that's the deal.

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LOL @ this.

Just tell her to take her god damn pants off already. Seriously though- could be any number of things. Women are fickle creatures but you fucked up somewhere along the way. Obviously the first place is asking her to hang out. You don't ask, you tell. "C'mon, we're going to get a beer."

Deconstruct the last date, pinpoint your known issue areas and fix.

That said: if you're in the game you're going to be flaked on. A LOT.

All right I always say let's hang out or do you wanna hang out.

Should just say, "come over" and not ask them??

i have seen this one girl for over 3 years. I take her out on a date every time I break up with a girlfriend. We have a date and she goes home and I don't see her for another 6 months. It is the way it is.

Don't beat yourself up because you didn't sleep with her right away. What's most important is how you feel about yourself. If you are interested with this girl you will keep inviting her. Eventually she will say yes. She just wants you to work for it. She likes you and she wants to make sure you don't fuck her and leave her. Dont feel frustrated because it doesn't matter if she see's you or not. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the women's test to see if you can be stable or if you go nuts on her.

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For a girl like that I would say lets have dinner again. Then make a date 3 date three days in advance. Then follow up with her the day of. If she flakes then move on. If she cancels then say that's okay I understand and try again. Keep trying until she stops responding or you get with her. Either way don't let it affect how you feel about yourself.

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Just say something like: "I got blank going on _____ c'mon over, it'll be fun."

or

"I am going to _____ if you want to tag along you can"

The point is to make her live in your reality. A perfect example of this is one of the girls in my FR from yesterday. 2-vt99907.html?start=15

I sit down at her table, while she's eating lunch- I didn't ask, I just said, "I got to get going in a sec, but I'll join you." We talk and then later she asks me if it's alright if she eats while we talk, which on the inside I found hilarious. I sat down at HER table, I invaded HER space, she was on HER lunch break, not the other way around. But, from her perspective she was a visitor in my world.

I am not saying I am a shit-hot PUA by any means, and just take this with a grain of salt. Just my opinion.

I'll gladly take advice and I admit that I am too nice and play it safe when I get a girl I like.

So as an experiment I should be more forward about my intent and say something like this next time:

I'm going to get (coffee/dinner/whatever) wanna join me? ? I want you to come? your coming with me (with a hint of humour to soften the assertiveness)

is something like that gonna get me better results than asking:

you wanna get (coffee/dinner/whatever) would you like to come?

I'm asking because something is missing in my game in terms of me getting better success.

This by itself is kind of funny, LOL, it's clearly a way to frame things sexually, but, a safe way of doing it is just to say

"Let's go get coffee." You're implying and being dominant and spontaneous but not going over the top with it.

I think that nails the bullseye right there. I also think this is one of the biggest issues we all face. That is that there is ALWAYS a long list of dudes, and your much safer to assume you are #4 or worse and work on moving up to #1.

Think about this, what was she doing two weeks before you shook her very existance with your absolute awesomeness causing her to let go of everything in her life and cast all her dreams to the wind for even the mere chance of face time with your cock?

Answer is simple, giving her number to the other 973429857394857938457 guys who hit on her while she was out.

People need to stop thinking that every girl who smiles at them and laughs at a few corny jokes suddenly wants to have their baby. Think animal kingdom, females move around in packs constantly searching for an ideal mate, then if it doesn't work out, they move on.

Same with males, constantly searching for a "suitable" mate. Parading themselves infront of the pack at every chance hoping get some that day. Real life is no different. You have to stay on top of your game, and know at all times you are competing with other gamers. Be a winner, not a soar loser.

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I would ask her if she wanted to come. I wouldn't tell her "You're coming with me". One time I told a girl "You are coming with me" and she was like "Woah!" then I made up the date and time. She was suprised I was telling her what to do, but she was also busy. So I became upset because I thought she didn't care enough about me, but really I was just to insecure to give her the option to say no.

If you are going to force her to come with you then you need to make sure she is available during the time you ask.

An alternative plan is to find out what this girl likes to do.

For example this one girl I dated: I tried to get with her for like 3 years. This is a different girl from the one I mentioned above. I kept asking her out for coffee or a movie, but shed never come.

Finally I was out in a club and I invited her to come out. She drove out with her two girlfriends even though they didn't want to come to this particular club. She said hello and left. I told her we should meet up later that night, after the club. She agreed, and left.

I moved on and hooked up with some other girl at the club. But things didn't pan out that well with this new girl because she lived so far away, and was with two of her friends.

Then it was 3am and Macy the girl I've been trying to get with for 3 years calls me drunk. "Hey, why don't you come over to my friends house"

So I fucking drove like an hour at 3am and fucked her. Now I never want to talk to her again because I found out how slutty she is and it's kind of a turn off.

The only reason it took me so long to fuck her is because she doesn't like doing date type things. Because she's only good for a drunk fuck - and she knows it.

But my persistence paid off and I got what I wanted. She doesn't seem to be upset by the fact that I don't call. I'm just another number to her.

So maybe it's not you. Maybe it's the girl. Maybe she doesn't enjoy doing date type things. Find out what she likes to do. Just ask her, hey what do you like to do? Then invite her to do that.

You will know that she is interested in doing that activity because she told you. And then your next move is just to invite until she agrees or ignores.

The most important thing is to not get frustrated or upset with her. She had no obligation to do anything with you. If you notice you are getting frustrated then you need to stop and think... What am I expecting from her? Because that is where the frustration comes in. Be accepting of her flakiness, but don't contact her multiple times unless she is replying to you. It's important to understand that some people are just flakey and it's how they will always be. It has nothing to do with you.

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