I met this girl and we've gone out on 3 dates and kiss-closed. She went away on a vacation with her family this week and I was thinking of having some flowers delivered to her on the day she comes back. I haven't given her flowers yet and would rather not give them to her on a date because she would have to carry it around the entire night (I don't pick her up at her house, she lives outside my city and commutes in on bus or train). I know this girl is into me but I'd like to keep increasing her interest. Is sending flowers at this stage an AFC move?

hey id do it. a great surprise for when she gets home.

its even better if you know her favorite flower, but after only 3 dates i doubt that you do.

In my opinion its only AFC if you don't know for a fact that she likes you.

If she genuinely likes you and know it for a fact, then it's fine.

If you are being genuine with your intentions and you genuinely want her to have flowers then do it man.

(It does have a level of ass kissing but it's a man duty. you don't expect her to give you flowers)

I wouldn't expect anything out of it if you did send her flowers. Also dating is for AFC's. I learned that the hard way.

This is kind of what I was thinking. I would in all likelihood give her flowers at some point early on in our seeing each other so I thought this was a good time since she is on vacation and we won't see or talk to each other for over a week. I just don't want to come across as "ass-kissing". For instance before she left she told me how when I first started seeing her she thought I wasn't too interested and she sat at home agonizing over it, I don't want to make her think I've gone the complete other way now that we've kiss closed.

Same thing i told the other poster, no flowers, no, the only flowers every once in a while i give a girl are napking flowers, that i make in the club as a joke, and i say "it is no much but is mine, and i place it in her cleavage here are the instruccions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7tvBoL95IY



but anyways, as i keep telling newbies, you need to do the girl 1st or second date, if not you will fall into boyfriend/afc territory...

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Lol? You made me laugh with that afirmation.


Yes its too soon. Its really good ideia what skillz said. But if you go in relantioship( yes its for Afc´s lolol) good ideia to give flowers to your gf.

Hpm, m2 is right believe it or not... He is not saying having a girlfriend is afc, what he is saying is that the traditional courtship dating(dinner, flower etc..) is for afc.. And he is right, as i always say, you want to be the guy the girl wants to fuck, no the guy the girls wants to date, and then if you want to make her your girlfriend, is always easier to work backwards, at that point do all the courtship flowers, dinners whatever, that you want to do...Sometimes i surprise my girl with flowers, but we been together 5 years, and Fridays we have a date night...But if you start doing this at the beginning there is no challenge, mystery involve... too easy...

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I agree 100% with you skillz, I thought he was talking about relantioships, if it is the case I apologize to m2.

Hpm, you are a good sport, you got class, my respects... Anyways to the original poster watch this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix52LldhtfQ

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So wait let me clear something up because I am noob with this PUA stuff. But lets say I like this girl alot and want her to be my girl friend possible wife one day. And its our 3rd date. I should not give her flowers right?

Watch the link please, answers your question in detail, everything you just describe is what not to do...Does not matter if is the woman of your dreams, future wife, future fiancee, as soon as she knows that, and that is a possibility, you are done for good.

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I have no audio at work but I will watch when I get home. Thanks for the info

What it comes down to is, giving a girl flowers or NOT is not inherently AFC or otherwise.

Giving a girl flowers because she's hot, and you WANT something from her, is.

If you WANT to give her flowers because she likes you and you like her and you want to develop a deeper connection, then go for it! I cannot think of a single time I have given a girl a flower and she has taken it as "AFC" or been anything other than turned on by it. But that's because I give them cuz I'm genuinely inspired to, not cuz I'm seeking pussy.

But this will only work in the right context. And personally, unless I was REALLY into the girl and knew we had an amazing connection, I wouldn't do it after 3 dates. But it really depends on you and your relationship (or lack thereof) with her.

Just don't give her flowers because you want something from her. She'll smell that from a mile away and it's gross and creepy.

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Exactly thanks for translating my point

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