I use HB rating but that is a community term some of these aren't exactly HBs/hot babes lol and technically it is a 0-10 rating.

I know some people have different opinions but I think there are several things that are universally attractive and unattractive a lot of the time which I think a 1-10 looks scale would highlight.

I have looked on quite a few different PUA websites and have not seen one with pictures of perceived 1-10 ratings which I find a bit shocking, hopefully this will serve as a bit of a road map I know it's far from perfect though.

Unfortunately I had to use links because the Img button was not working but you can still appreciate what each different level of woman looks roughly like in my opinion.

Please click the links below to see the images in respective order, it might be a good idea to right click and open as a new tab as some of these don't let you go back for some reason.

For me personally I think a true ten is very rare or non existant so we will start with a 9.5 - the very hot model - like Megan Fox.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=megan+ ... =120&ty=71

Then the 9 - the hot babe - aren't always famous models they can be just starting out models, strippers or students and you might be lucky enough to spot one at your local beach.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=averag ... 24&bih=585

8 - the cute slightly above average girl, I know this is Paris Hilton but this is a rating in looks not personality lol

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=paris+ ... 24&bih=585

7 - the average looking girl

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=averag ... x=34&ty=27

6 - the slightly below average looking girl

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=averag ... x=64&ty=32

5 - the overweight woman that is moderately attractive

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=averag ... x=62&ty=85

4 - the older unattractive overweight woman who makes up for it a bit with an okay rack

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=unattr ... 24&bih=585

3 - the unattractive overweight woman with no cleavage

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=unattr ... x=93&ty=51

2 - the morbidly obese woman

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=unattr ... x=45&ty=37

1 - the woman that looks more like a dude

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=unattr ... x=75&ty=58

0 - unrateable

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=unattr ... =117&ty=83

I hope I am not being too shallow here

I have personally seen very drunk guys who were desperate go for anything 2 and above and sometimes even a 1 lol. The 0s aren't usually seen in clubs luckily. If I am brutally honest if I had not been laid in a year or two and was clueless with woman and was drunk I might end up going for a 3. I wander how low most of you guys would go if you were clueless lol.

Seriously though is this fairly accurate and does anyone else have a different opinion? I would like to see pictures preferably.

Who cares?

It's a binary system: you either would fuck her or wouldn't, that's all that matters. Some guys will agree with you, and some won't. But we all have our preferences, so the only person's opinion that matters when it comes to deciding if a girl is attractive is your own.

Kudos to you! I was thinking about this today. I was reading some FR and LR at work today and I think that everyone is calling average girls HB9s and HB10s. No way every dude on here is blasting super models. Anyways I think a HB5 is an average girl.


1-Globlin
5-Average Girl
10-Goddess

Like the thread

Haha you a mean SOB getting pictures and shit!! That's someones wife.

Thanks SmoothOp that is an interesting perspective I always thought a 5 should be avarage and not a 7 like a lot of PUAs and Mystery Method people think I remember blowing a set and a more experienced PUA said to me you should not neg 7s and they were about average looking.

From various PUA discussions a 7 is always assumed to be average, so anything above a 7 is hot and anything below is from slightly below average to hideous.

If a 6 or a 5 (a 4 in your rating perhaps smoothop) came onto me and it was no strings with no effort on my part I probably wouldn't refuse but would if it was anything below that or I had to put any effort in. I am being brutally honest here I am tired of the amount of BS I have to go through to bag 7s or 8s lol. Most of the 9s are famous and the 10s don't exist in my book so I don't really come into contact with them.

Indeed, who cares?!

When you 'grade' a girl [for example HB7 or HB9], it doesn't matter that everyone should think that the girl is HB7 or HB9. It is about you!

Because when you tell here on the forum, that you wanted to approach a girl, but you were scared because she was a HB9, we are trying to see things from YOUR POINT of view. Because your approach and your anxiety/lack of self-confidence are determined how comfortable you feel.

Sometimes I rather approach a HB7 who looks cute, than a HB9 who looks like a pornstar

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the time and effort you have put in your post. But there is no need to convince others, or to find consensus what a HB7 or HB8 should look like.

this thread is stupid.

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I beg to differ

Although anthonypam has a point I would rather have a down to earth 7 than a bitchy 9 and definitely vice versa of course lol even more so

Some of the pics and descriptions made me lol

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I have bursts of being a lady, but it doesn't last long.

Yeah the ugly and fugly ones are funny to look at

I agree with the fact that it shouldnt matter what others rate a girl, just what you see her as...... but.... as all you guys know, there is a difference in picking up a super hot girl and a ugly girl. So when giving advice on the forums, there should be a difference in advice. So when one of you want advice on picking up your HB10, which could very well be an average looking girl. Maybe the the super confident social jackass might scare her away or the freeze out destroys her shitty self esteem. I like this thread simply because it is entertaining, but I do think it has relevance.

Would you guys game a super hot university girl with tons of male attention the same as you would game a shy average looking university girl? Prob not. An accurate rating system is required for new guys so they don't destroy possible potential. It obviously matters on everyone personal taste and no one wants to say they SNL'd a HB3. And what fun would all those fake FR be if people couldn't make up fake scenerio's with HB10s

Yeah, I say it doesn't matter what other people think of her, as long as you find her attractive, nahmean - after all, doing whatever the fuck YOU want to do is alpha, no?

meh, it is just a question of, is she dooable? vs is she not dooable?

then you have to ask, do i like her as a person?

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and the #7 is prettier than megan fox

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Yea the 7 is super hot. Because she's not wearing a bunch of makeup and still shes fucking stellar.

I think your number 5 is outrageous. It's fucking great.

Then Arnold's bitch for number 4 or 3 or whatever! HAHAHA

Funny ass shit.

Your scale is pretty acurate for one night stands. But judging on looks alone I would want to hook up with the 7 more than just one night. Where as Megan Fox is the bimbo type that is good only for fucking.

A lot of those really slutty girls are only good for sex. But it gets old after a while. I like the number 7 because thats the girl I can imagine being with for a long time. Where as the slutty chicks have always been well, slutty. And that shit doesn't fly after I start fucking them, because I get jealous.

Although I'm sure they are all pretty slutty. Hell every girl I have ever know has enjoyed having sex. So it's like hum, what is she going to do when I'm not around? Well I guess thats why I'm single. So I don't have to imagine it. Oh well

Fight on.
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I really like this way of looking at it