Here's the deal-

I met this girl Hillary at a bar. Hung out there, got a number. Went out the next day, and a few other times. The latest being just hanging in her bed listening to music and talk and stuff. But here's the thing, we haven't even kissed yet!

I've made a the move tons of times and each time she giggles and turns. I can't tell if she is a tease or not. She is a conservative virgin, which I dont mind. Seems very dateable---but come on, not even a kiss?!?

me-At one point we had this convo on facebook between dates 3 and 4-
So here's the deal....

I think you're a great girl and I'd love to see you again. I want to take you out this week.


Honestly i like you, but there's no use trying if you're not the same. I'll just use my energy some way else.

Let me know

Her-

I don't even know how to respond to this. haha

but first, I thought you were "too cool" for facebook?? :)

ummm maybe we can get coffee sometime this week?




How the heck would you guys approach this? At one point I even teased her for not even kissing, yet we still hang out! Should i play harder to get?


-Stumped

Simply ask (when the moment is right) "can I kiss you?",
Or bring it up in convo when your close and can feel the chemistry "So how come we haven't kissed yet?"

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your post is a bit hard to understand but if she offered to go out on a date with you it means she is interested

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I don't quite understand your post. Mind answering some questions to clear things up?

She wouldn't let you kiss her?
But you have made a move right?
A rough indicator of age would be appreciated as well, if you are both teens (which I presume) it would just her taking a while to accepting the fact you want to kiss her.

Don´t know if I can get back to you soon, but these Q&A will help someone else answer...

Hey man,

Sounds like you're reaaaaally deciding to climb the mountain here.. A conservative Virgin? I totally understand and respect some women wish to "make of woman" of themselves when they've met Mr. Right - the question is: are you Mr. Right?

As far as kissing goes - why don't you take her out for a dinner-drinks-dancing date? Basically spend the evening together on a Friday night. Dinner, because you're classy and mature. Drinks, because you like to party - and it takes the edge of shyness.. and Dancing - well that's a no-brainer; up the ante in a club.. get the kino going, the eye contact and you'll be French Kissing her in no time!..

Coffee is no good as a 5th date!.. Should be the bed sheets by now!

Also! That facebook massage you sent her.. first thing I thought of when I read the post was: "Ultimatum".
She obviously likes you if you're going out of dates - but saying to her (putting it bluntly here) "give me some lovin' or I'm offski" isn't going to get you anywhere..


Summary:
-get drunk, get naked.

Eeelooshionisht

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Sorry for the unclear post.

I am 22, she is 20. I have made moves. She turns her cheek and giggles, but in a cute "not yet" way.

I have taken her to dinner and bar before. I am for sure not kino-ing enough with her I think. Perhaps I haven't been strong enough but I also am getting a vibe from her that she wants things slow, just very slow.

At times I have even said jokingly "seriously, you don't want to kiss yet" and she says something like "it doesn't work like that with me" or "not yet" or other odd remarks...which normally I would just move on but I do think she likes me. At one point I even jokingly said "you can't even kiss me? I am interested but you are just being silly" and her reply was "just because I don't kiss doesn't mean i'm not interested."

She seems like a girl that gets chased a lot and is quite picky. I am trying to give her enough space but can't stop thinking about her!. We will talk every day or every other day and see each other twice a week, but I wouldn't mind getting closer.

In the meantime I have been getting action on the side and I know she has heard about one occasion, which I can't decide it good or not.

What do you guys think? I am thinking she is very picky and is just feeling me out...but come on, this is very slow. I do like her a lot so I'll keep trying, I just want other opinions on the right thing to do.

And yes, we have been out drinking before but I am trying to stay sober for a bit. I went a little overboard the last few months and need to be clean for now. Plus I think I relied too much on alcohol when picking up women so I want this to be all about real confidence and not just the alcohol making the shameless moves for me.

Lol how funny a girl that uses cat string theory

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