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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:21 am 
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I recently broke up with my first girlfriend (I also was her first boyfriend) after a month long relationship. She said she had doubts because she didn't have any real feelings for me. After that we decided to break up, because I actually felt the same way as her.

The thing is, I'm sure that I can fall in love with her, that's why I actually didn't want the relationship to end. After our break up we decided to keep on dating and see if any true feelings might surface. We also decided to keep on doing sexual activities with each other (we didn't fuck yet), but we wouldn't be exclusive to each other anymore.

We probably didn't have any true feelings yet, because we met online, talked to each other for about a month and when we met each other for the first time, we already became a couple. Probably a bit too early, now I look back at it.

But my questions are:
1. Should I look back and analyze everything I did to this point to see what I might've done wrong? I know a lot of people in the PUA community say that it's your fault when things go bad when you interact with a girl, but does that also count for making the girl fall in love with you? So what it my game that screwed this up or not?
2. What do I have to do to make her fall in love with me? Or is there actually no real way of getting there? I know PUA stuff is mostly about attracting and seducing women, and not really about making girls fall in love with you, but perhaps somebody here still sort of has an answer to my question.

Any help would be appreciated.

P.S.: This isn't a case of one-itis or anything, as it doesn't affect my willingness to flirt with other girls, in the meantime I'm trying to find others, it's just that I really had a lot in common with this girl, and I would really like to have a relationship with her. I just don't know what I can do to get there...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:01 pm 
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to answer to your first question, yes you should analyze what you have done because that's the only way that you can see how you can improve. but also it allows you to analyze the girl to see what you are attracted to and what you are turned off by so that you know what type of chick to go for in the future. ur ex loss the attraction to you probably because you let things die down but also perhaps you were not motivated enough to keep the attraction and rapport going because of the things you didnt like about the girl. am i right?

even though it is the main focus of pua to some guys is to sleep with as many girls as they can and yet some guys learn in order to find the one girl they dream of. from my own experience, from what i have learned from pua. women have been very attracted to me, keep chasing me, and some women have in the past falllen in love with me because of my advanced skills. but i was not in love with women. it's easy to make a woman fall in love with you but the most hardest thing a guy can feel is love for them. something each guy has the learn on his own and not from any book or video.

im not sure if you know about the steps to gaming a girl i.e. attraction, push and pull, qualification etc which are key components when doing game. but if you want a woman to feel connected to you like they have never connected with another person besides a family member is to build deep RAPPORT.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:30 pm 
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Wroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.

Analyzing every tiny detail of the time you spent with this girl will lead to your going nuts, in all honesty. Because you will wonder if every subtle movement and every word impacted your situation somehow. You said you didn't have any significant feelings for the girl anymore, and she felt the same about you. this stuff happens. You haven't necessarily done anything wrong just because you aren't attracted to a girl. The situation just didn't work out, in my opinion, because you two didn't know if you had a lot of physical chemistry. You can't find that out online, and when you were finally around eachother in person you just assumed you could be a couple. Just be happy it was mutual and one of you was not left saddened by these events.

If there's no "it" factor, there just isn't one. When some guys that study pickup talk about casual sex, they aren't looking for relationships so they don't concern themselves as much with romance. You aren't even falling for this girl, so how can you get a girl to be with you when you don't even really want her. You just know there are commonalities so you're trying to force it. Don't, she's just, for whatever reason, not compatible with you in terms of a long term relationship.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:59 pm 
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to answer to your first question, yes you should analyze what you have done because that's the only way that you can see how you can improve. but also it allows you to analyze the girl to see what you are attracted to and what you are turned off by so that you know what type of chick to go for in the future. ur ex loss the attraction to you probably because you let things die down but also perhaps you were not motivated enough to keep the attraction and rapport going because of the things you didnt like about the girl. am i right?
I think you're right to some degree. There wasn't actually anything I didn't like about her, it just was that that feeling wasn't there (yet). I also think that I got sloppy because I was in a relationship with her. I was more in the mindset of that I already her, so now I can just take it easy, while I should have kept my game going.
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im not sure if you know about the steps to gaming a girl i.e. attraction, push and pull, qualification etc which are key components when doing game. but if you want a woman to feel connected to you like they have never connected with another person besides a family member is to build deep RAPPORT.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.
You make a good point here, something I've thinking about a bit more, as I screwed up a pick-up some thing ago because I didn't fully understand this concept. I know that you should start with attraction and qualification (I do a lot of C&F, push-pull, some dhv-embedded stories, sexual qualification) and when she's attracted to you and she feels it's logical I'm attracted to her, I should concentrate on building rapport.
But during this comfort stage, I should also keep the attraction and qualification stuff going, otherwise I'll still end up in the friend-zone. My question here is:
Roughly speaking, what's the ratio between this rapport building and the attraction/qualification stuff, when you're in comfort?

@ DJ_Z:
Yeah, you're right. I'm probably overthinking this because it was my first girlfriend, and in the past I always thought "Okay, I have problems with getting a girlfriend because I can't make her attracted to me and I am too afraid to escalate, but when I get a girlfriend, I'm sure I can hold on to her". So it's probably a bit of a blow to my ego. It's pretty stupid to stubbornly try to get it back on with this girl, even though I'm not in love with her yet. It's not like she's the only girl I have a lot in common.

Thanks to both of you for your posts.


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