There's a girl that I used to hit on. She was quite receptive to most of what I did, we used to a lot about sex and kino was at the point of ass slapping, when I went for a kiss close and she turned me down. She didn't give me an LJBF line, thinking about it now, the only problem I saw was that I forgot to isolate and went for it in front of some friends. I decided, that I wouldn't look back at find a new chick.


Anyway, we're long past that and she loves hanging out with me. Other girls came and left later in my life, some left pretty good memories. Now the girl I was talking about is showing some interest, the last nights we went out she kisses me on the cheek, roams the bar in search for cigarettes when I've gone short, wants me to hold her close, loves it when I play with her hair, when we hold hands or when i keep my hand on her leg and she gives me massages. Problem is, I still am very attracted to the girl, she's probably an 8 or so in my eyes, and I'm not exactly new to gaming, and I'm wondering if I should forget about the "don't go where things didn't work out before" notion? I'm almost sure I'm gonna try my luck, but I want to hear your opinion on this one.

Well, if she's throwing signs of interest your way, nothing should stop you from going ahead and acting on them.

Go and get her.

But, this time be mindful of your past mistakes before pulling the trigger.

Good luck.

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You can game everyone, anytime, anywhere. No one is holding you back, except you. You are the only one who sees invisible barriers.

If you are not in the mood to game, then you don't game.
If you are, you game. It is that simple

If you feel like to game the girl, you just do that. That's all! No more other thoughts should be involved.

@DonDraper, thanks but I really decided that if anything is to happen, I'll probably try to fuck close her later in time. For now I'll take some time off with this girl, there are many other girls who have interest for me and I've been gaming lately.

@anthonypham, I do game constantly. It's a little harder with her, cause we've known each other for quite some time now and I hate looking at the friend zone, but I've done my best to keep her out of there. She knows that I don't want to talk about clothes or boys, and that I would rather fuck her crazy, if she proves worthy to me. I tease her, I make her jealous from time to time and it's obvious. Problem is, while she has interest for me, there are the occasional players that she meets, who have a ton more mystery than me. When I'm not alone, she wants to share our attention, when she's with me she wants only mine. I IOD her enough for that, she feels I'm losing her and by the end of the night I can seal the deal however I want. I just don't want to see her the next morning running off to someone else. As I answered Don, I'll probably leave her be for now, I'm gonna game some other girls and if I feel like it later, I'll check her out again.


Thanks for the advice, fellas!

This is good advice.

I have been with women that blew me out cold years ago. It happens all the time. The only time the game is over is when you throw in the towell and walk off the field.

Ive seen this problem alot... it might just be failure to kino escalate, did you touch around her face and neck before the kiss.. if so was she comfertable with it, have you gone into rapport? theres a wide range of things that could be going wrong, if you really wanna work on building up to kissing then click the link and theres a podcast on the website that helps with all kinds of stuff including kino and rapport problems and how to fix them http://ajandjordantalkchicks.com/episod ... e-9-touch/
if you listen to it let me know if your intrested into learning more into it and il refer you to more stuff like it

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Rapport was good, I even went a bit too quickly into it, cause a friend of mine had a thing for her before I knew her. Actually, he introduced her to me. It was our 10th night out I suppose. That's why I was expecting an LJBF.

Kino was good too, tho. She was comfortable with me hugging her, holding her hand and the first time I tried to kiss her was when she lay in me and put my arm around her shoulder to have our picture taken, and after the picture she didn't get up and stayed close to me. I read it as a major IOI, put my hand on her cheek, turned her face towards me and said, that I was happy we saved that moment. After a short triangular, both from me and her, I leaned in and she pushed back. Came as a bit of a shock, she quickly went into explaining how she enjoyed spending time with me and bullshit. I asked her directly if she didn't feel for me in a special way. She avoided my question a few times, I told her it's ok to just tell me and that she can trust me, but she still wouldn't. At the end I felt like I forced a "yeh, I want to leave things like this" out of her. I accepted it and quickly moved on and after a while we got in touch again, because we were in the same social circle. She would then try to call me etc. but I left things a bit cold, just some short chit-chat. I'd keep the sexual vibe in our conversations and usually ignore other topics, so she eventually adopted the frame. She tried to build rapport again and meanwhile I was escalating kino.


I got to the point of posting this thread, cause the night I wrote my post she would constantly kiss me, hug me and take pictures of us. I thought it's the alcohol and didn't want to go into this shit again, cause I hated her IOIs and didn't want to get burned again. The next day she swore that she wasn't drunk and remembered everything. Problem is, that she's ignoring me with other guys around, while I'm clearly AMOGing them and the other women on the table react on this and reward me with their full attention.



I haven't actually looked at any material for quite some time, so excuse me for any wrong terms. I'm having a very hard time reading her, I suppose that's what keeps me interested in this girl and was wondering if anyone has had similiar experience.


Story is a bit messy, just wanted to draw a better picture of the situation. Thanks for the podcast, will listen to it.

ya and its helped me out greatly, as far as the picture and all that id say thats more of incedental kino then overt, if you dont already know incedental is things youd normally touch a person for examples like thumb wars high fives arm around the shoulder during a picture.. all incedental now an overt would be more of an aware touch thats a little more than what youd normally touch.. if you havent read the dicarlo escalation ladder yet then it would cover this problem almost 100% http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esc ... m.pdfheres a link
honestly i think its more than likely a kino problem, you did kino but maybe you didnt build up to a kiss quite yet or have gotten to those steps, now when you asked her openly about how she felt about you i wouldnt of advised doing that beacuse it can lead to akwardness and those feelings could easliy get stuck with you, again tho it could be that shes shy deep down and isnt quiet used to kino or another conflicting belief / feeling

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to succeed you must learn, to learn you must first fail

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