hey guys, i am bloody confused of late. as players we believe game is gonna be the ans to our problems and get that girl we always wanted. We end up being better people, more interesting, and some of us succeed, while others give up.

however, there some guys who dont look anything great, arent very interesting people, and somewhat weird, but they end up with a pretty decent looking girl. around my school campus, i see this all the time.

is this just me, or are there others who have observed this too?

Yeah I hear you. And no I don't have an answer to this. But I do have a scenario:

Imagine yourself learning about the game. What do you learn? You learn to be more confident, you learn lines to say and you learn other basic skills. Now I know I'm being pretty brief here, but anyone can learn these skills. PUA isn't rocket science. It's something anyone can learn, and something most people can figure out on their own.

I agree with dangerous, and your describing me, im not (NEARLY) the hottest guy, and im pretty freakin weird, but ive been doin PUA for months now and have girls coming to me (and i dont seem all that interesting to other guys around me). Try this player boi, become friends with the guys who you think have no game, watch them, and youll see they probly hide those qualities from the public (I dont run around screaming "IM A PUA GIRLS LOVE ME" why would they?)

One girl i am seeing dated an obese guy and she is tight and very talented too...this a little bit of a turn off actually i must admit but she said it was his stare...his eyes...ehh...

It takes more than a stare for me but i've been attracted to very average women intensly...also some very beautiful women just did not stir any feeling in me...

Attraction is complicated...and women more so.

Does it matter? Remember that learning game is not just about getting the girl or even being a better person, it's about entering a relationship empowered--if you want to be in a relationship--or fucking plenty of girls from an empowered position.

If you are looking over at which girl is hooked up with which guy (other than for the salutary purpose of finding guys you might want to model yourself on), you are wasting your time.

Remember that one of the things that does lead some guys into sex is being pathetic (mercy fucks) and into relationships (girls who want to be mommies to their BFs). Neither of these sound like any fun to me.

On the other hand, as others have said, just because you can't see what a particular guy has to offer, doesn't mean he has nothing! Just like having ostensibly a lot to offer (good looks, fitness, intelligence, success) doesn't guarantee being good with girls.

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Just kidding. Maybe. You should absolutely take this as a good thing. Why? Because it proves an important point that everyone needs to get into their heads. While it is important to improve as many areas of your life as you can, ultimately your looks, etc. are not going to ruin your chances with women. There are a LOT of factors that influence a woman's attraction, looks is just one of them.

So next time you see some freak with a hot girl, just remind yourself, hey, that could be me. That dude had the balls to walk up and approach her, and somehow sparked her attraction. And it sure wasn't with looks. I can do that too.

Work on everything you have control over, and don't stress over things you don't. For example, I'm a pretty short guy, and while I'm sure there are women out there who wouldn't want to go out with a short guy, there are so many who don't care either way (or actually prefer a short guy believe it or not) that it doesn't matter. So why waste time thinking about it. I work on the things I can. Stay in shape, lead an interesting life, and create lots of options so I don't act needy.

Good luck.

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Well, if you'd take some time off from noticing how he looks like, you will find that he some quality which attracts women to him.

And looks are superficial anyway, there are so many things that will get women other than looks.

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so fucking true! zen, thats.. totally zen.

Thanks guys. all of u are fucking smart!