Hey guys. So I've been gaming for a while and am very thankful for the community and all it's taught me. But I do have a major problem. I meet a girl and get the phone number no problem, but when it comes to setting up the day 2 and even escalating further, I constantly fail.

The reason I'm posting this is because I just got rejected by pretty much the girl of my dreams. Now I didn't put her on a pedestal, or invest in her or anything. I just played it cool and she still rejected me...

Pointers? Words of advice?

im pretty sure its because you arent closing on the girl after you game her. i had this same problem. i dont know why closing on a girl retains her interest longer. but im pretty sure its because you show your interest in her when you close. you close by getting a number or kissing or even sex. (do what you want but i would not try sex close unless shes really perverted) i usually close with a number and a hug.

Oh and one more thing. i think when you close you want to try to set up another time to meet her when you close on her. im not sure but im pretty sure i read that somewhere.

Can you be more specific? At what point during day 1 did you fail to get day 2? Tell us what led up to that point, what her emotional states were, What you two were doing, what you two were talking about etc. That would give the more experienced members more information to help you, and allow the less experienced ones to learn from you.

Dr. Spargenator: Thank you for the input. But I dont quite understand what you mean by "closing on a girl." More specific please?

Acolyte: During the initial meet, everything is fine. She's all smiles, Im qualifying her and genuinly trying to get to know her. Most of my interactions last about 5-9 mins, then I numb close. Now here's where a lot of my number closes go awry. Sometimes they don't even answer the first txt which I send within 30 mins of getting the number. IF they do reply, I'll build repoire over three txt conversations and ask for the day 2. But most of my number closes are flakes or just stop replying after a while. Now I know there are girls who give out their number without a second thought, but I have had to stumble upon some decent girls. OH! And I strictly do day game, mostly indirect approaches

I can completely relate. I would like to get a MPUA’s input. I feel like I’m just playing a numbers game here. I’m at about a 14% success rate based off number and kiss closes, 30 of these in the last few weeks and only 4 dates.

I know this isn’t an easy question to answer because it’s just like a sales presentation. You can tell when the buyer wants to buy Vs. a shopper just looking to shop. The easy way to answer is how do you convert shoppers to buyers. I can’t seem to scratch that itch with women lately.