you care what others think ofyour behaviour...

guess what.. most people will be anoyed by you even if you didn;t do anything wrong...

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I think LMR is a bitch, and you need to prepare for it, I say give it a good college try. One try, no, second try, yes/no and go on from there. I had a girl not give me her number first time, I manned up and asked a second time and got it, pretty sure she just had LMR and got over it. if she said no the second time id just move on. Thats what i had. Don't chase, I say try two times and thats it.

Yeah because when you're gaming a girl coming across as needy is really the right way to go.... Are you that warped up in your own way of thinking that you won't even accept other peoples view points?

Persistence is the worst skill a pua can have, never ever ever chase, no matter how fine she is, no matter if you could have had her, let her go is the best skill a pua can have in my opinion, the less persistence the more success with a woman, the more persistence the less success with the woman remember that formula.

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i totally agree .. you should be persistent regarding your goals in life... not persistent when it comes to woman.

if you motivation is to get laid or get a girlfriend .. don't be persistent because oyu are focussing on external things.

if your motivation is to improve your game skills then be persistent

if a woman isn't attracted you shouldn't get her as your girlfriend

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Persistence like most qualities, depends on how you employ it.

It can then be good or bad. Calling it "always bad" or "always good" is a sign of fools.

If she's made it clear to you that she is NOT interested in you in any way, than persistence will not get you anywhere, you just can't change her mindset and nagging on the said topic will cause problems for you. Also, it shows that you are dangerously obsessed with your target even before knowing her and that's just crazy.

That aside, if she's not rejected you outright and is just testing you, because she wants to see that if you really mean what's coming out from your mouth, then persistence works wonders. Once, a woman sees that you're persisting in making an effort towards her and not one of those giving up kinds, that are only interest in getting their temporary thrills from her (read Wham! Bam! Thank You, Ma'am!) she will be attracted to you faster than you'd blink.

So, persistence depends on how you use it. You can either be positive in it's use or negative, it all comes back to YOU.

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Now youre talking. I was talking about his specific situation with a woman.

This is getting very close to the other thread on chasing girls posted by the same OP, lets kill the discussion here shall we.

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