I'm new to this and have never sarged before or any of that, but I want to develop some skills. One of the things I want to be able to do is lead girls on, but in a very casual way. And I don't want to to really end in sex or kissing, but I want them to basically fall in love with me.

Is this possible?

Why would you want them to fall in love with you, without any of the benefits that go along with it? This makes no sense, what are your motives for the game then?

Power? Cult following? Validation? This is a dangerous mindset to get into the game.

Honestly, I'm just sour. Sour of what girls have done to me in the past.

Yea, I understand that my reasons aren't that good. I feel like this is a short phase that I will get over once I've had my fill. But at least now, I want to be capable of doing this.

Of course I also want to work on just getting girls for kissing/sex or whatnot, but part of me feels unforgiving. I guess this is the game that my darker side wants.

Yeah- you went all dark side of the force on us. Listen- here is something I hope helps. People, not just women, people do shitty things to each other, all the time. I know it hurts man- you probably feel crushed and invisible, but work on you- start gaming for the right reasons and before you know it, you'll be alright. I swear! Just do it for the right reason. Write down a list of goals, think of what you would really like to be, the kind of man you always dreamed about being, and then get to work on it. The game should enhance your life, not be your life and you DON'T need women to validate you, the second you realize that, you won't need the game, you'll have inner-game.

Hmm yea I understand that doing this for solely validation is probably for the worst. This is more along the lines of revenge I suppose. In order to get over whatever has happened to me in the past, I forced myself to drop my previous beliefs/values in romance/relationships/etcetc. There was one point where I wavered and allowed myself to be hurt again. This time I've decided to stay strong and continue like this. It may seem sad to for the most part think of women objectively, but really it's done wonders for my mental health. But because of this, I can easily think about revenge without too much remorse . . .

I just wanted to protect myself.

Women are far more perceptive than us- they will know when they're dealing with a wounded guy. As I said before objectifying only puts a bandaide over it, it doesn't heal it.

Dude- you're going to get hurt no matter what you do. Simple fact of life. And to take it a step further- everyone you will ever get close to in life, parents, friends, girlfriends, wife, whoever, is going to hurt you at least once. You just have to figure out a better way of dealing with it, accept it, move on. No offense, but I don't think counseling would hurt either...just food for thought.

Amen.

Some PUAs have this attitude that they need to take revenge on women and treat them poorly. Everyone who I met that fits into this category leads a toxic, unhappy existence. You need to let go of your attitude - if not for the women you will meet, then for your own benefit.

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I see what you mean about it being the start of a road that I don't want to go down. I'll keep that in mind and hopefully it will get better when I've started to have luck (or skill) with women.

Thanks

This is not what the game is about, we love women, at least i do, your motives are pathetic, move on, do not live in the past... All these guys in a mission to fuck women up do not belong in the community. Rule of pua: ALWAYS LEAVE THEM BETTER THAN YOU FOUND THEM, tatoo that on your dick...

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Exactly!

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Did the girls lead you on or did you misinterpret their intentions because you were inexperienced? Whatever happened, don't blame the women blame yourself, it's the only way things will change for you. Learn from your mistakes and move forward.

You're not going to get over your anger by creating more pain in the world.