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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:11 am 
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Hi Guys

I would like to apologise in advance for the essay I am about to write.

Last Saturday 27th August one of my friends introduced me to this girl, we hit it off straight away and she gave me her number and kept suggesting that we meet up - she gave me some very strong IOI's. At this stage I had a GF but the only reason I hadn't broken up with her was because she was away. The girl knew I had a GF and kept asking me about her, when I told her things were on the rocks it seemed like she was trying to persuade me to end the relationship (she didn't persuade me, I had already made my mind up prior to our meeting).

I texted her the next day and we arranged to meet for a drink on Wednesday. Wednesday came and we had a great night - she asked me if I had broken up with my GF and I told her that I would be doing when she gets back tomorrow. She didn't believe me.

The next day after I had broken up with my GF I texted her and she seemed happy. That evening I was out to dinner with friends and she suggested that we meet up on Friday night - I suggested going to see a film and she agreed. At about 2pm on Friday she text me saying that she was feeling really ill and we may have to change it to Saturday - I thought she was bailing so I left it, she then sent me a text saying "we could do saturday day" then sent me another one saying "or saturday night" then another one saying "or if you can't do either we will do tonight" then one more saying "I have been asked to work tonight so could do with knowing ASAP". Finally I responded saying "I can't do Saturday at all so it will have to be tonight". When I arrived to pick her up on Friday night she was with her older brothers friends and one of her girlfriends, she asked me in for a drink and in the end we ended up staying there until closing. We then left the bar and I drove her home (she was too drunk to drive). When I dropped her off she said to me "text me when you want to see me again" and gave me a kiss on the lips - not a long kiss but definitely the sort that makes me feel like there is more to come. I got about five minutes down the road and text her saying "I've decided I want to see you tomorrow - why don't we go see that film we were planning on seeing", her response was "Yeah :) x".

So Saturday morning came and I text her suggesting times, she agreed and then later she text me saying she was really hungover and feeling rough so in the end we decided to postpone seeing the film until she was better. I sent her a message saying "Sleep it off. I'll bring you some sweets when your better :) xx" she responded by saying "Thankyou :( your so sweet xx". I ended up going out with some friends in the end.

So yesterday we were texting and she asked how my night was - I told her it was good but would have been better if she had come along, she said she wasn't invited and i said "you should have invited yourself, you would have been welcomed with open arms. Surely you know that by now?!" she responded by saying "I should have ;) really xx". We couldn't meet up last night because she was seeing a friend. At about 8pm she text me asking if I was working on Monday (today), I said "yeah why?" and she said "I was going to see if you wanted to do something". This is where it gets strange - I knew that she was going to look at a university today and when I said that "I thought you were looking around that university" she responded saying "haha Oh yeah I forgot". I would bet my left testicle on the fact that she did not forget - in which case why would she try and arrange to meet up?

I then told her "when am I seeing you again" she replied saying "umm whenever really :)" I responded asking her if she was with her friend and she said "Yeeeah xx soorry xx" then sent another straight away saying "But I will see you soon x". A couple of hours later I responded saying "Good. I'd like to see you again :) good luck tomorrow xx". I haven't heard anything from her but I guess thats because i sent a fairly open ended text message and it was sent at 11pm and she is seeing that university today.

My problem is that I don't know how to read into her messages - I don't know what she feels about me and I also don't know how to proceed with her because I am getting to the stage where I can't help but think about her and I really don't like feeling dependent on someone.

Another issue is that she is going away to university on Saturday - she told me the other day that she would be coming back every other week but before she goes I want to make sure I have cemented myself in her mind so that she doesn't forget about me and wants to see me when she's back. I feel like i'm working against the clock and I don't like it at all.

I would be so grateful if somebody could help me out with this and help me to dissect her messages.


I am new to the game so any help would be fantastic.

Once again I apologise for the essay.

Thanks in advance guys!!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:22 pm 
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there are a couple of things that ive noticed in your story.

the beginning part was good, maybe you should have made it more clear that you were dumping your GF because it's not working out and not make it seem like you're only dumping your gf for the new chick.

from the start of the texting you sounded very dominant especially when you said "I can't do Saturday at all so it will have to be tonight". it's obvious that she's into you. but when she kissed you, you should have push it further and made out with her. you shouldnt of organized to see her the next day as it was obvious that she was going to be hung over and turn you down. your game went abit down hill afterwards especially when you sent her a text asking when you're going to see her again and "Good, i'd like to see you again" lowers your value and you look too eager. and from then on, you gave her the power over the interaction, therefore her interest in you has fallen abit.

you've got to be more dominant and take charge because that's what she liked about you in the first place. make sure to have sex with her, that way you will be cemented in her mind forever lol.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:27 am 
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Thanks for your comments dude.

With regards to breaking up with my girlfriend she did know it wasn't to do with her, I made it very clear that the reason I was ending the relationship was because I wasn't happy being with her anymore and hadn't been for a while.

My problem has been that because she is leaving by the end of the week I was trying to do everything as quick as I could so I could see more of her - turns out now that she might not be leaving after all. I also have a tendency to become quite attached to girls I like, which in the initial stages is extremely frustrating.

I agree with everything you are saying, I feel like in the last couple of days I have relinquished my control over the conversations and I don't like that. Have you any advice on how I can re-establish the control and be more dominant?

Any help would be great.

Thanks again.

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basically to be more dominant and take control, you have to act in that way. say what you want. do what you want, tease the girl, make her qualify herself, positive and negative validation, but more importantly is to be more sexual with lots of playful kino and escalate to more sexual touching up to the k close and beyond.

here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you as well as some conversational techniques that i use all the time. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude


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