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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:57 pm 
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So I 'dated' this girl for the second time. She likes to see me, so she likes me,
but I don't know how far and especially how to k-close.

She smiles at my jokes, she doesn't mind that I touch her a bit, we talk about a lot of things, are very interested in each other and there is something in her eyes which tells me she might ache for more. She also plays a lot with her hair and touches herself and clothes a lot when we talk.

She doesn't touches me, and I don't really feel that I can try more. Even little things like touching 'accidentally' my feet with her feet like on the terras were we sat today.
I have this feeling which always says me that the time is right, but this feeling is not really there with her. I think I can try something, but it will be risky. But it might work.

She also goes with me in stories, like today she spoiled some ink on her leg, I said: 'Oh no you have blue blood, you're nobility, now I can't marry you!', .. and then we joked about it further and in the end I could marry her ... then she seems sincere in some way.

I don't know, it's in fact more the almost 'subliminal' connection with our bodies which I miss. Sexual tension. She seems also a little nervous and shy. Maybe she is a little afraid to let herself go with me. Or maybe she just wants to know me a little better first.

Also today when I met her I didn't sleep to well, maybe I also didn't feel too well
with myself.

I definitly don't want to end up in the friend zone.
So advice to build up very subtle attraction and sexual tension is welcome!

We're also both quite sensitive artistic types, if that matters. I think I would like to have a relationship with her.

Thanks, thanks, thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:43 pm 
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But she seems sometimes open to kiss when we're into the story which I mentioned or something like that, but it doesn't seems long enough.


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She doesn't touches me, and I don't really feel that I can try more. Even little things like touching 'accidentally' my feet with her feet like on the terras were we sat today.
I have this feeling which always says me that the time is right, but this feeling is not really there with her. I think I can try something, but it will be risky. But it might work.
that's your answer, you need to take a risk and make it sure that she knows that you want to be NOT a friend. The more time you will spend with her the more she will like you, BUT since there will be no move she WILL like you as a FRIEND.
If you keep on meeting with her and don't go for a kiss or anything, she will just drop you to friends zone.
You are a guy so don't wait for her to make a move - she WON'T make a move!
How are your conversation with her? Are you teasing her, push pull, flirtatious? The way I get it you don't kino?


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Yes, that's what I mean, there is not a lot of kino. I try a little bit, but she doesn't really responds much too it. I've got the feeling that I've got to try to 'break through' some small wall or something. But she lets me touch her hair for example. And there is some verbal flirting, for sure.

I've now the idea that I've got to build-up my masculinity with her. She also is a bit older than me. I asked yesterday if I could hold her upside down, I always like to do it with girls who are smaller than me :P but shed didn't understand it too well. Maybe I should've just suprised her.

She seems quite sensitive. Maybe I should try to build up something verbal first ...
she told passion inspires her a lot (she's an artist), so maybe that's an opening.
Dunno, it's just not very clear :?


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Yes, that's what I mean, there is not a lot of kino. I try a little bit, but she doesn't really responds much too it. I've got the feeling that I've got to try to 'break through' some small wall or something. But she lets me touch her hair for example. And there is some verbal flirting, for sure.

I've now the idea that I've got to build-up my masculinity with her. She also is a bit older than me. I asked yesterday if I could hold her upside down, I always like to do it with girls who are smaller than me :P but shed didn't understand it too well. Maybe I should've just suprised her.

She seems quite sensitive. Maybe I should try to build up something verbal first ...
she told passion inspires her a lot (she's an artist), so maybe that's an opening.
Dunno, it's just not very clear :?
you have so many ideas and still keep them on-hold. You ain't gonna know it until you try it out!
About kino - try teasing her, making her laugh and to hit you, you must make it comfortable for her to touch and be touched by you.
IF you keep doing what you've been doing, you Will keep getting what you been getting. If you ain't satisfied with how it is with her right now - DO Something about it!


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Yes I guess that's the truth.
I think I want her too much, so I'm afraid too f*ck things up.
I normally tease girls without problems if it's more clear and if I don't care so much..
But she seems so sensitive.
But I guess indeed: if I don't try anything nothing will happen ... that's life eh.
So I will try something, yes :!:

What do you think about this: I invited her already twice for a date, but yesterday she also let me know that she went to some performance with friends which were I was with some other friends, but anyway, if you've dated a bit and it seems alright between each other, then you have to watch out less to make the impression that you're running behind her I guess?

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I think I want her too much, so I'm afraid too f*ck things up.
Dude, I'll be honest with you, that line is where your problem lies. You need to NOT care about f*cking things up. You've somehow convinced yourself that she's the only one for you. Change your mentality to one of abundance. There are millions of other girls out there if this one does not work out. Stop being so afraid and make a move. Who knows, maybe that's all that'll be needed to show her your masculinity, and if not, there are tons of others.

Good luck, mate


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Next time you meet, do the triangle. Then go in for the kiss


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Damn I always stumble here on things from which I know deep down that it's the truth. But some part of me doesn't wants to see the truth.
But you make me see it, and that's good, in the end :idea:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:56 pm 
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Closing is fun and all, but doesn't make you a better PUA. Fucking up, that's how you learn to reflect and actually become an mPUA.

So it's either closing some insignificant girl or improve your game. Sounds like a win-win to me.

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Dude... I think you are too emotional. Do not think too much about her. Meet some other girl then you cool down a bit. You think she is the one and only? :) Don't be so stupid. Touch her often,(but don't ask!) let her know it's not only about talking. If it is problem for You try sth like "You know what I've seen great massage on tv..." or sth like that and just start touch her more! That should be good base to KC... and don't show up here without KC ;)


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Good input 8)
I may have already someone else on the hook.
We'll see, but I slowly start to believe in abundance.


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