I saw a post just now asking what the difference was between picking up a HB7 and a HB10 and all thats inbetween, and i thought i should share my reply.

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First of all, I want to stress my belief that people need to remember that this rating system employed by the PUAs of the world is subjective, girls I call 8, some may call 10, some may call 5. It's easy to spot the "obvious" 10's, those girls who are physically amazing, but dont forget that depth is something a lot of guys look out for.

So I would take an intellectual 8 over a stupid 10...

An approach to your dilemma is to separate her HB scale into 2 factors, her "average HB rating" from a physical perspective, and her potential intelligence rating. You should be able to get a good feeling just from her reaction to your openers.

Good opener to use:

--walking up to any numbered set--

"Seedless watermelons, how do they do it?"

from the responses you get, sort out which of the girls should really be your targets.

Let's say theyre all 10's physically (hypothetical, yet not impossible scenario)

Girl 1 - "Seedless watermelons? Is that, like, a joke?"
This girl is clearly retarded and would be quite easy to seduce into doing anything. Downside being, probably a short attention span, easily lead by other, more muscular, and probably stupid guys.

Girl 2 - "That's the worst pickup line I've ever heard"
Probably the savviest girl of the group, very confident in herself and her intellectual and physical properties. If she says this with a smile, there is a huge possibility for you to push forward. It'll be a lot harder, but she will be the most entertaining, the most adventurous, and she will teach you a lot. Huge relationship potential if you do it right.

Girl 3 - "They're genetically modified, etc etc..."
The intellectual, looking for appreciation for her mind in a group of retards. Quite easy to seduce, but more likely to be prudish. Always the chance that she's a closet nympho though, always watch out for the quiet ones.

Girl 4 - "..."
Obviously too many issues with self-esteem that she wont answer an interesting question, probably trying to prove her worth to her friends. Neg her once, try and befriend her if you can find an opening as she will provide you with great social proof.

Girl 5 - "OMG I know right??? no-one ever thinks of these things!"
Quite energetic, the party girl, friends with everyone, can afford to be picky with guys. You really have to separate yourself from the pack with this girl and be the most unique guy out there.


Overall, as my post hopefully conveys, it doesn't matter how physically attractive they are, it's what's in their head that will determine how the night goes.

I find that as soon as you drop below 7, I did this purely out of research, that girls can be even harder to seduce that a 10. The unattractive girls wish to prove dominance in whatever way they can, this may even involve blowing off the hottest guy just to tell her friends he wasn't her type, purely for status. They will always be stuck in a cycle similar to AFCs, and so the ugly girls and AFCs continue to breed and ruin what should be an amazing experience, life. That sounds a little bit harsh I know, but if you're not interested in exploring opportunities and everything that life has to offer, what is the point of being?

I hope this helps you find your way mate, and remember to look not only what is written, but into the concepts of what I have said, for that will truly bring a greater understanding.

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Peace,

Tonic

"-Because I said so...-"

Don't think you can determine intelligence based on just this. Besides, what is intelligence anyway? Are you trying to peek at her IQ? The dumbest girl I ever dated had an IQ of like 150+, so personally I don't really find that a criterium. The only real intellectual level that's even remotely interesting is how wise she is, and I don't really think you can create such a scale.

Everybody judges differently anyway. I don't really think it matters. We'll never know how she looks or acts anyway, all we know is how our fellow PUA thinks of the girl. And that's all we need really, right?

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Go.

You're exactly right, and as I stressed at the end, understanding the concepts I've demonstrated is how you'll learn. Everything is subjective, what you consider intelligent and what I consider intelligent are as different as what you and I consider attractive.

Understand that you need to look for the responses that you want, or the responses that you believe show personality traits that are desirable. This situation is how I operate, I sort out the answers and determine who I'd rather spend time seducing.

You're also right regarding an intellectual scale, what I should have iterated was that the scale was pre-determined by you on a subjective basis, that the response was based on what you found more desirable to hear back, and this coincides with what I said above.

I'm glad you responded like this as it gave me a chance to understand the potential questions the guys attending my seminars might ask, it always helps to be questioned in everything you do, only this way can we truly gain better knowledge.

Much Appreciated my friend, I look forward to more of your reviews.

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Peace,

Tonic

"-Because I said so...-"

Thumbs up. Great post. I might use this opener from now on. Assuming you get shot down you can always use it as an excuse to judge intelligence with an opportunity to neg or even to simply compliment passing your test lol

good post funny but true bout the AFCS and the gernades ruining life. the gernades should put out to hot dudes not blow them out 4 status LOLOL