Just joined the forums so excuse my newbieness. Traditionally I have never had a problem closing it has always been opening. Past few weeks though I picked up this girl, saw her a few times and am getting mixed signals. The conversation is always good and she is always telling me we should go places do things etc. but here's where the mixed signals come in. End of every night always comes to an end where I get this stupid awkward sideways hug. I never call her, but she texts me and it only seems when she wants to do something in particular or needs something (I always let the girls chase me, bad habit I'm trying to break, currently reading the game for some pointers on assertiveness and pickups so I can advance from the women I get to the women I really want).

With this in mind I am not getting any strong POIS/signals she is wanting me to make any advances. With how comfortable some of the conversations are getting I'm wondering if this is expresslaning to the friend zone. Not sure if this could be because I do not put in any effort. Sometimes she will volunteer to do things then withdraw if I won't pick her up etc. Any ideas?

yea man the more you go out with her and end the night with those hugs the deeper you are getting into the friend zone.

take her out one night, go clubbing, dance and shit then go for a kiss close and see what happens

Not sure exactly what your question is. Please elaborate!

agree on this one 100%.. Should start applying it to myself more. The attitude of doing things and see what will happen instead of thinking ahead of me...
Was thinking about the last of my dates and since I m seeing that girl few times per week can tell that all those hugs and comfortable conversation NOT a good thing..
While we on this question from my part:
At the beginning you have conversation sexual, then once without making a move it turns comfortable - how to bring it back without making it sound like you just wanna talk about sex?

Tease her. Lots of push-pull. Touch her a lot, massage her, whatever, then stop with a little cocky-funny humor, and make her beg or fight you a little for anything more. She'll want you the most when you don't let her have you.

Hey man.. it's perfect that you don't chase girls. A PUA doesn't chase them.. women chase us. Women want men that are hard to get - Mistery line.. Show her that you're a busy man and sometimes you don't have time for her..now I'm not telling that you never run after her.. you should.. but only when she runs after you.. this is cat-string theory in The Game. Why would a man who is pre-selected and has options in women run after a girl right? So basically, when you see her.. neg her.. a lot of push-pull.. and KINO a lot. This is very important and a lot of people don't do that. Have you ever tried qualifying yourself to her? If you didn't.. well it should be the time man.. a guy who doesn't qualify will likely fall in the LJBF zone. The thing is.. falling in that zone is not a problem.. don't worry man you can get out of it it's not the end of the world trust me and being in the friends zone is actually really good.. because she can present you to other hot friends that she has.. and because you became so "good" friends with her.. she will DHV you to the hot friend she'l introduce you to. So don't worry.. but as I said.. try some qualification.. see her response, and do the Mistery Method.. negs, push-pulls, don't run like a bitch after her.. remember.. you're a high valued male with a lot of options.. you don't need that shit.. and when you put yourself in that mindset.. she will too! Hope I helped! Peace out!

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