alright guys

so me and my mate went to the college bar this tuesday we opened 4 sets that night total. 2 him where I winged and 2 me where he winged me. there was one set where i was completley confused on what the outcome was going to be but it went a little bit like this.

there is a 2 set in the outstide. i would was a HB 7.5 (acting like a 9) and a HB7. the 7 was on the table sitting facing directly at the 7.5 which was on a stool face to face sitting down having a conversation. they are smoking. the outside is packed, mostly dudes, you guys know how bars are, ration is bout 2 guys 1 girl. anywhom me and my mate, andy, are getting ready pep talking and discussin openers far away from where they can see or hear us.

THE OPENER
so i open them up with a sideways body language and say, "hey ill tell u a joke if u give me a cig" so i tell em a joke they laugh get the cig and the 7 (blonde) was like omg my boss told me that joke today at work lol. i was like its funny as fuck.

MID GAME
well i dont remeber much because it has nbeen a couple of day but we started talking and then i started negging my target the 7.5 (brunette) and she was firing back. now keep in mind that the blonde is on the table and the brunette is on the stool and thier bodies still facing each other. they start talking about age. they said they were 23 and i told them " thats pretty old". then wen they asked i told them i was 21. anywho she starts throwing comebacks at me HARD.

at this point as me and my mate are talking some black dude comes up to the blond and starts to game her. he is there for a bit but eventually leaves. then we talk bout wat he was saying and she was telling the whole group like how is pick up line was "are u in the army, you should join, i have a clipboard"

now the brunette has her body facing me and the blond is next to her facing us too at this point i am thinking, "ALRIGHT, thier body language is indicating interest and they are smiling, they are even asking us questions. at this moment the interaction has been going for a good 15 minutes.

THE SHIT TEST
she threw alot of comebacks at me left and right. at this point i knew they were shit test and was running out of things to say. my mate was talking bout how ny is different from charlotte etc. I liked her fiesty attitude. now i dont have come backs and wen she throws a disqualification comment at me like an insult i laugh. this is my last weapon. i laugh it off and dont leave nor get insulted. she seemed like the girl that would start a HUGE SCENE if i would of insulted her with my arsenal. so i had to be very picky with what i had to say.

at one point we are talking bout pick up lines and then my mate was like "what was the corniest lines u guys ever heard?" she said my opener, BAM i was destroyed had nothing to come back with so i laughed and high fived her.

then she was telling me to tell a joke * *** note: i believe this was a move for an attempt to see if i was a dancing mnonkey so i said no and let my mate say it***
then i was like ur a funny person u tell me a joke she was like "ur an idiot"

**** in my mind i wanted to rape then and there teach her some motherfucking repect and finhger her asshole and rape her mother I WAS FUCKING PISSSED****

but i didnt instead, i was HAHAHAHA laughing and telling hewr that was good and gave her a high five and rested my hand with hers for like 3 seconds more than a regular high five. I liked her personality and her firend. we continued talking but eventually i wasnt to sure if i should eve go for the number close because i was seeing mixed signals.

WHY I POSTED THIS ON HERE
1) i would like feedback from the guys on here and would like to know where i should of improved, done and not do

2) she was shit testing me from the begining but she did move away with the usual "i gotta use the bathroom or dumb excuse girls give". I didnt leave either

3) because of the mixed signals i am not sure if i did well or if she had a good time busting my balls and she didnt bother to leave.

4) I am pretty sure she was eying me but i dont know for sure it has been a couple of days since the interaction. sould have i gone for the number close?

*** i am not saying i am a master PUA but i believe it is sets like these where you grow and you learn from and eventually get better at the game. BOYS AND GIRLS (if you are here too lol) please please givce me some feedback i would grealty appreciate the insight from those of u on here who have been thru this. THANKS and happy gaming
-JUICE MAN

Easy man, most of us are on here because we actually LIKE women. No need to get mad because a woman is wittier than you.

It sounds like there are alot of holes in your game. Your opener was good, but you can't neg 7's that hard. 1 neg per compliment with a 7. 2 with an 8, 3 with a 9. That's the general rule of thumb. So you probably came off like a dick and she got sick of dealing with you.

You never mentioned locking in or kino. Both of these are very valuable. Keep reading and don't be so rude. I very rarely neg sets, unless they're hired guns. No need to come off like that if you don't have to.

Glade

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Some girls are very dominant and instead of proving themselves to you they want to prove themselves to their friends.

As the above post said make sure to lock in and use personal quips and quotes to try to woo her a little. If that doesn't work then toss out a light (keyword is light) neg and swap targets go for her friend laugh joke and toy with her take her away for a drink etc. etc.. then when shes good and pissed, or steaming jealous compliment her sincerely and swap back.

Thats what worked for me, got a number close and an apology for her smart-ass attitude from earlier.

sometimes a question will end the behavior "You arent having a good time?" "Lets go get a drink and figure out whats wrong with you"

Good luck man i hope this helped!

if your going to be negative it better come off as your kidding, or it was meant to be a compliment that just had a backhanded nature to it, if she pissed you off then you are reacting to her, try to train yourself not to respond to exterior validation, from what you wrote you were lightly approval seeking trying to get her back into ''i like him'' mode, you should have just been more focused on having fun, and if she doesn't fit into the having fun frame, exclude her from that frame and have everyone else you can fit into your frame fit into it, eventually she will crave validation and attention from the group and jump into your frame, if she is being rude, there are ways to handle that without having to be throwing out witty comebacks, if she is doing something counter productive like being rude and arguing you arguing with her is fitting into a we don't like each other frame, that is counter productive, at the start a neg here or a witty burn there can put her in her place as long as they are funny, but serious insults will get you no were, try breaking rapport on her with a back turn ignore her and talk to someone else until she behaves, when using your negs and funny insults do not allow her time to react, immediately seek rapport with someone else before she can speak and if she trys to interject, immediately cut her thread, without thinking just train yourself to blurt out QUIET DADDY'S TALKING, or AND.... BACK TO ME, next for the pickup line thing you should have re-framed that, with looks like it is working, with shit like ur an idiot, why do you like idiots so much, if she gets more rude use the above, you could tell her something like WOW you sound like such a smelly pirate hooker right now, am i going to have to slap you in public? (then redirect seek rapport with someone else don't let her answer), when you started laughing at her dominance and high fiveing her, that is totally approval seeking behavior

PUMPINGTOTN

I think you are right on man. now that i am thinking about it i should of repositioned my self next to her friend and isolated her and talked to her friend until she stopped being a bitch. Also, yes high fiveing i guess was approval seeking, so next time (note to self ) DONT DO IT. I like the back hand complimnent "u must like idiots so much" " the line worked".. I wish i would of thought of this on the spot. i think the key here was to isolate her and go to her friend and then turn to her when she behaves right?

also the line "Daddy's talking" has that ever worked 4 u? in what context and did u have to carry a strong frame?