A wise old man once told me that "people with find you attractive if you find yourself attractive. "

Lets say you stretch and flex your biceps, thinking this action will attract females.
The actual physical action isn't the primary factor of attraction, it is the feeling/energy you create by it, the act of yourself feeling sexy by the action. When you feel sexy people will feel similarly towards you.

Being "alpha" rarely has to do with the physical aspect of a person, but more on how he perceives himself and the world around him. If one has high confidence people pick up on it and want to be around that person. If you don't like yourself, and have low self esteem, then why would others want to hang out with you?

This is all written within you, you just have to unlock it.

You may say;

"But Silentman!, I go to the gym and now because I work out people think im sexier and girls look at me more!",
"Girls actually care about looks, they arent going to see your energy before they actually talk to you and you can show your value"

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To objection 1, I say it's a common misconception. People go to the gym to become healthier and feel better about themselves, and of course people are gunna look at you now you have a rock solid 8 pack, but you can have all the muscles in the world and have no self esteem, and you will still find yourself loveless.

To objection 2, I say that girls can pick up on people's vibes more than people think. Again, its not the physical as much as the perception. Yes they care about looks but that's not the emphasis of attraction.

-Sil3nt

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disagree with this shit, looks matter, lost alot of weight started getting laid alot more, and it became way easier, girls randomly started wanting to do stuff, stopped mentioning their boyfriends, got alot less LJBF, who knows maybe it was my sub-communications but I would say nope, they are just as shallow as us, people say WELL WHAT ABOUT THE UG'S WITH THE HB10'S not everyone is shallow there are good looking guys with ugly girls, they could have not settled not everyone needs a perfect 10 to be happy, just someone that makes your feel good/special, but when it comes to getting laid fast, game is important, girls are naturally more submissive with more insecurities, you need to be more dominant to get past all their barriers of shit to get into their pants fast

Pumping one could argue because you, like me, lost alot of weight - so you were happier with yourself anyway! Chicken and the egg argument anyway tbfh.

Looks matter to a point, being well groomed is one thing. Ask any PUA and they will say girls care more about personality than looks. My freinds uglier than Ron Jeremy and gets laid like a rockstar. He doesnt work out and hes considered obese. Following your argument this would be impossible for him.
This is because as you lost weight you lost one of your biggest insecurities, that you were fat. And because yo no longer has such a major insecurity, your self esteem rose and subsequently you got laid.
This is irrelevant and works probably for you on girls who you hit on. This does not work on all girls and this is your personal style, try not to generalize.

-Sil3nt

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Girls only like a guy if he is confident in himself. I know ugly guys who dont get girls at all, and i know ugly guys who get a lot of interest from girls. Looks dont matter nearly as much as confidence

Let's put it this way; you have to do the best of what you've been given. Groom well, work out and dress in a style that suits you well. You will easily add to your "score". You will maximize your physical potential.

Looks without game will get you laid sometimes. A strong game with average looks will get you laid a LOT more often.

Where are these mythical ugly guys with the hot chicks? I hear about them all the time but I sure don't see them. Or if I do, he's either rich, gay, famous or her platonic friend.

Saying girls don't care about looks is a huge lie the PUA community feeds us to sell products. Of course they do! It's like women telling themselves those 20 extra pounds on their ass don't matter to a guy. If you're really good looking and can form a coherent sentence, you're going to get laid... a lot! The biggest thing you can do for your game is to maximize your looks. If you're average or below average looking and you're not doing everything in your power to be well groomed and incredibly stylish, the rest of it won't matter much. What's the first thing Style did in "The Game"? He shaved his nappy balding head, got a tan, lost the glasses, whitened his teeth and got new clothes. He maximized what he had!

Now I will say that hot girls will often start to relax their standards a bit when they start looking for someone to settle down with. This is usually after their looks start to fade and the hot guys stop paying attention. And then there's also women out there who are flat out sluts and will sleep with anyone, god bless 'em! If you're in the right place at the right time with the right chick... score!

If you're ugly, should you just give up? Of course not, but you need to maximize whatever you've got and adjust your expectations a bit. You'll be a lot happier and more successful in the end.

Saying women do or do not care about looks is unfair both ways. Women do care about looks - but only up to a certain point. Women don't rank guys like we rank women (1-10 hotness scale, etc.). Women look more at behavior, status, confidence, and appearance (notice I said appearance instead of looks. They're not the same thing fellas). If you've got these, you only have to be cute enough.

Look at all the high-level PUAs. With certain exceptions (Matador, obv) most of them (like most men) would be really douchey-looking IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE AN EFFORT.

Being in good shape - and dressing in a certain way, using good hygiene and grooming, etc. - signifies you make an effort and you treat yourself with respect. Treating yourself with respect means you've got confidence and self-esteem. This goes a long way for both yourself and for women you meet.

I am bald and overweight. I am in the process of losing weight but I bag 8's and 9's all the time. It is true that I get blown out quite often because of being overweight but I am full of bravado and have a great style and smoothness to me. A lot gorgeous women that I eventually lay say that I'm not the type of guy they usually fall for. With that being said my game has to me spot on. If I were in great shape my game could be much more sloppy. Don't let looks hold you back. I think of myself as Brad mother fucking Pitt and girls pick up on that shit. Don't let looks hold you back.

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If you look good you will have an easier time gaming, looks do matter...With good looks easier time gaming, but looks without game bad! If you have a really tight game looks irrelevant, an example jeff rsd used to be fat.

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I know one guy who's fat and not even good looking and somehow he gets laid non stop and with the hottest girls too. Looks dont matter much but they do to a certain point. I dated this HB9 before and she told me im the hottest guy she's ever dated and her friends literally told me im very hot but I still get rejected like a bitch.

Some good points made here. I will talk about my perspective.

I have agoraphobia, which means I try and avoid difficult and embarrassing situations as much as possible. This is one of the reasons I started looking into the game. It was mainly to get over my fear. I have always been told I was good looking, but I never was able to attract female attention. Why? Because I never bothered. I looked into all aspects of the game and I recommend reading as much as possible, as knowledge is power especially in regards to the game. Also a great tip I found as I had limited social experience, just search about interesting convosational questions and tools. But the main thing is to be well groomed, wear clothes that you feel comfortable in and develop a strong frame. If you look open and comfortable when approaching a girl, it's surprising exactly the responses that you get.

It's absolutely true that you just need to be clean and neat to get the ladies. Anything more looks than that are just making the game easier but aren't necessary. And are easily compensated by skill.