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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:20 am 
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"OMG you are such an ASSHOLE"

Now if she says something mild like jerk, or mean, i can laugh it off, or say ya i am thanks, cuz its jokingly playful. But when they call me 'asshole' it kinda gets to me because its so rude and insulting, but i cant comment back with 'bitch' because that seems equally or more rude or insulting, maybe even a deal breaker, like for a guy to say something like this. I might have answered back on this but its so strong and comes out of nowhere, it particularly gets to me, i don't know how to answer it perfectly, i wanna answer in a punishing way which lets them know.


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"OMG you are such an ASSHOLE"

Now if she says something mild like jerk, or mean, i can laugh it off, or say ya i am thanks, cuz its jokingly playful. But when they call me 'asshole' it kinda gets to me because its so rude and insulting, but i cant comment back with 'bitch' because that seems equally or more rude or insulting, maybe even a deal breaker, like for a guy to say something like this. I might have answered back on this but its so strong and comes out of nowhere, it particularly gets to me, i don't know how to answer it perfectly, i wanna answer in a punishing way which lets them know.
I need more information than just one phrase....i.e. context, previous interactions ect ect---this doesn't seem like a shit test though. This seems more flirty, but I have no info....A shit test is "Why do you have so many friends that are girls?"

Also- why do automatically assume the worst? And furthermore jump the gun and go all internet tough guy, like you're about to beat her ass for daring to call you an asshole. I routinely tell women "Why are you talking to me without a sandwich in your hand." or "I hate you so much" it's flirting. They normally respond with "fuck you, if you werent so hot you wouldn't get away with that" try and relax


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"OMG you are such an ASSHOLE"

Now if she says something mild like jerk, or mean, i can laugh it off, or say ya i am thanks, cuz its jokingly playful. But when they call me 'asshole' it kinda gets to me because its so rude and insulting, but i cant comment back with 'bitch' because that seems equally or more rude or insulting, maybe even a deal breaker, like for a guy to say something like this. I might have answered back on this but its so strong and comes out of nowhere, it particularly gets to me, i don't know how to answer it perfectly, i wanna answer in a punishing way which lets them know.
I need more information than just one phrase....i.e. context, previous interactions ect ect---this doesn't seem like a shit test though. This seems more flirty, but I have no info....A shit test is "Why do you have so many friends that are girls?"

Also- why do automatically assume the worst? And furthermore jump the gun and go all internet tough guy, like you're about to beat her ass for daring to call you an asshole. I routinely tell women "Why are you talking to me without a sandwich in your hand." or "I hate you so much" it's flirting. They normally respond with "fuck you, if you werent so hot you wouldn't get away with that" try and relax
I am not going internet tough guy, but i think one instance was i jokingly guilt tripped by acting disappointed when she didn't up on for something or she cancelled the plan for some emergency... then i told her i was messing with her, so she called me an asshole, punching me in the arm, that time, i might have been offended or maybe not i cant remember, but sometimes i might tease them about something, or make a comment about something they dont agree with, if they call me an asshole, its like whoa that was too quick and stepping over boundaries a little..

its like me telling them, you are such a bitch with a straight face, very possibly early on of knowing them..they might think wow that is stepping over a line too fast...


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It depends:

If she calls you an asshole and you have been an asshole, then there is no point in being insulted because she called you on your shit. (In fact there is almost never a reason to be insulted by anything some random girl in the field says to you, no matter how ostensibly rude.) In that case you just play it off like any other kind of push-back shit test.

If she calls you an asshole because you've had the balls to open to her and for no other reason (assuming you have more perspicacity than a fencepost and haven't just tried to pick her up when she just heard her dad died or something), then you have to pick your ammunition. Here are some possibilities, depending on HOW she calls you an asshole:

* "Pretty girl, filthy mouth - I can work with that."
* "Someone had a bad day, didn't she?"
* "Keep that up and you'll get a spanking."
* Body language - half turn, slight lean away, slightly exaggerated raised eyebrows and say to her friend, "Who pissed in her drink?"

Note--unless you are dealing with a girl who is a "negative attention seeker" (in which case number 3 above about a spanking works beautifully), this girl is probably not worth opening, but her friends may well be and may be a bit embarrassed if she is that rude for no reason.

So, if you just want to retaliate in actual asshole mode, and you don't care fuck all about the opening...

* "I haven't even started yet."
* "Well as long as we've got that cleared up, let's fuck."
* "There are two types of people in this world: Assholes and spastic, drooling, morons--you caught me."
* "I've had lots of practice dealing with people like you."

But all of that is pretty childish and isn't likely to get you anywhere. (Unless the girl is a raving bitch, in which case you might get applause.)

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It depends:

If she calls you an asshole and you have been an asshole, then there is no point in being insulted because she called you on your shit. (In fact there is almost never a reason to be insulted by anything some random girl in the field says to you, no matter how ostensibly rude.) In that case you just play it off like any other kind of push-back shit test.

If she calls you an asshole because you've had the balls to open to her and for no other reason (assuming you have more perspicacity than a fencepost and haven't just tried to pick her up when she just heard her dad died or something), then you have to pick your ammunition. Here are some possibilities, depending on HOW she calls you an asshole:

* "Pretty girl, filthy mouth - I can work with that."
* "Someone had a bad day, didn't she?"
* "Keep that up and you'll get a spanking."
* Body language - half turn, slight lean away, slightly exaggerated raised eyebrows and say to her friend, "Who pissed in her drink?"

Note--unless you are dealing with a girl who is a "negative attention seeker" (in which case number 3 above about a spanking works beautifully), this girl is probably not worth opening, but her friends may well be and may be a bit embarrassed if she is that rude for no reason.

So, if you just want to retaliate in actual asshole mode, and you don't care fuck all about the opening...

* "I haven't even started yet."
* "Well as long as we've got that cleared up, let's fuck."
* "There are two types of people in this world: Assholes and spastic, drooling, morons--you caught me."
* "I've had lots of practice dealing with people like you."

But all of that is pretty childish and isn't likely to get you anywhere. (Unless the girl is a raving bitch, in which case you might get applause.)
yeah but in this case these are girls that i have already befriended, in some cases i might be in the friend zone(or not) but i myself only look at them as a friend and nothing more, maybe a way to get to more girls...but in some cases these might be girls i am on a friendly level on, i am on my toes and careful and i am aiming for a romantic sexual relationship with..


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"OMG you are such an ASSHOLE"

Now if she says something mild like jerk, or mean, i can laugh it off, or say ya i am thanks, cuz its jokingly playful. But when they call me 'asshole' it kinda gets to me because its so rude and insulting, but i cant comment back with 'bitch' because that seems equally or more rude or insulting, maybe even a deal breaker, like for a guy to say something like this. I might have answered back on this but its so strong and comes out of nowhere, it particularly gets to me, i don't know how to answer it perfectly, i wanna answer in a punishing way which lets them know.
I need more information than just one phrase....i.e. context, previous interactions ect ect---this doesn't seem like a shit test though. This seems more flirty, but I have no info....A shit test is "Why do you have so many friends that are girls?"

Also- why do automatically assume the worst? And furthermore jump the gun and go all internet tough guy, like you're about to beat her ass for daring to call you an asshole. I routinely tell women "Why are you talking to me without a sandwich in your hand." or "I hate you so much" it's flirting. They normally respond with "fuck you, if you werent so hot you wouldn't get away with that" try and relax
I am not going internet tough guy, but i think one instance was i jokingly guilt tripped by acting disappointed when she didn't up on for something or she cancelled the plan for some emergency... then i told her i was messing with her, so she called me an asshole, punching me in the arm, that time, i might have been offended or maybe not i cant remember, but sometimes i might tease them about something, or make a comment about something they dont agree with, if they call me an asshole, its like whoa that was too quick and stepping over boundaries a little..

its like me telling them, you are such a bitch with a straight face, very possibly early on of knowing them..they might think wow that is stepping over a line too fast...
This just sounds like flirty unless they actually appear angry. See stefangreyman post, those are pretty solid responses. I wouldn't guilt trip. Ever- It sounds like your ego is bruised pretty easy- it happens even to the best of us. The male ego can be a fragile thing. I would check out some inner-game stuff---and this is just my take, it doesn't mean it's true. I wouldn't take offense unless she was purposefully trying to be offensive. Nothing wrong with having boundaries, just have realistic ones.


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I need more information than just one phrase....i.e. context, previous interactions ect ect---this doesn't seem like a shit test though. This seems more flirty, but I have no info....A shit test is "Why do you have so many friends that are girls?"

Also- why do automatically assume the worst? And furthermore jump the gun and go all internet tough guy, like you're about to beat her ass for daring to call you an asshole. I routinely tell women "Why are you talking to me without a sandwich in your hand." or "I hate you so much" it's flirting. They normally respond with "fuck you, if you werent so hot you wouldn't get away with that" try and relax
I am not going internet tough guy, but i think one instance was i jokingly guilt tripped by acting disappointed when she didn't up on for something or she cancelled the plan for some emergency... then i told her i was messing with her, so she called me an asshole, punching me in the arm, that time, i might have been offended or maybe not i cant remember, but sometimes i might tease them about something, or make a comment about something they dont agree with, if they call me an asshole, its like whoa that was too quick and stepping over boundaries a little..

its like me telling them, you are such a bitch with a straight face, very possibly early on of knowing them..they might think wow that is stepping over a line too fast...
This just sounds like flirty unless they actually appear angry. See stefangreyman post, those are pretty solid responses. I wouldn't guilt trip. Ever- It sounds like your ego is bruised pretty easy- it happens even to the best of us. The male ego can be a fragile thing. I would check out some inner-game stuff---and this is just my take, it doesn't mean it's true. I wouldn't take offense unless she was purposefully trying to be offensive. Nothing wrong with having boundaries, just have realistic ones.
for some reason i felt like there was poison in that statement, like she was trying to test me and see who will maintain power over each other... i think i was a big noob then, like still very oblivious...but just watching this forum, realizing what a shit test is, that you should consciously tease a girl its given me a new perspective...i mean at that time(last year 2nd semester uni), i'd open the door for her, offer to buy a coffee when she waited with me, or maybe asked her if she was coming to class, sometimes she would also ask me but not show up then(she missed the bus etc)....anyway she had a boyfriend so it was completely useless anyway, so i doubt she was really flirting with me, but when i met her(randomly sat next to her in a lecture) she laughed at all my jokes and seemed very happy to meet me..just a good lesson i think, i've jumped way too much through hoops in some instances so its good to be aware of this..


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:17 am 
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anyway she had a boyfriend so it was completely useless anyway,
Yeah- I don't stop unless they have two rings on their finger at this point- I used to hate BF destroyer- but what the hell.

It might have been a shit test- it might not- there is no way to tell- but if she was calling you on your shit- you shouldn't even blink in response. "You know you love it" haha or one of the previous responses.

This girl also seems like a bit of the flirty type- which means she isn't used to men calling her out- she's used to making them little puddles. Make it fun, light and casual.


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anyway she had a boyfriend so it was completely useless anyway,
Yeah- I don't stop unless they have two rings on their finger at this point- I used to hate BF destroyer- but what the hell.

It might have been a shit test- it might not- there is no way to tell- but if she was calling you on your shit- you shouldn't even blink in response. "You know you love it" haha or one of the previous responses.

This girl also seems like a bit of the flirty type- which means she isn't used to men calling her out- she's used to making them little puddles. Make it fun, light and casual.
haha in reality when she said she has to cancel plans, i was actually disappointed, REALLY disappointed, then it dawned on me, hold your sh'it dude..and i was like i'll tell her i guilt tripped her which was also the point of it...to make her feel bad. Yeah hot indian girl, she was the brainy type too and she was telling me about all the creepy guys that hit on her in bars and how she rejects them...once she said she was praying i come to class when this creepy guy came and sat next to her, told her he'd leave when I come to class...i asked her if his jokes were better than mine and she said no, HOWEVER i did try to physically flirt with her, the only physical touch we had was we hugged as friends and she once placed her hand on mine when showing me something on her phone, and other than that she showed me a text instantly when her friend texted her ' that guy ur with was cute'.... but she told me she had a bf mid convo a few times and i didnt get a strong enough vibe she was into me like that..


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then it dawned on me, hold your sh'it dude
Nice. But don't guilt trip. That only makes you seem like you care too much. Just brush it off. You should be a ghost, like it didn't even click for you to notice.


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never, ever, ever, ever, get guilt tripped, messes up your inner game, which in turn messes up your outer game. under any and all conditions either reframe/brush it off, or if the scene looks unsalvagable, just excuse yourself and open a new set.

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