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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:35 am 
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Recently I've been listening to myself when I talk to my mates about women and I've noticed that PUA terminology has crept in there (of which they are fully aware).

But we've all noticed that it just sounds so fucking contrived when we refer to girls as HB 8, or whatever and we have agreed not to mention any more about this terminology.

Anyway, I'm not judging anyone here. I'm just saying personally I think about how others might percieve my discussions as if its some snotty kid whose just read the game and is trying to impress all his mates.

I've also been thinking that many guys don't give a shit about the girls they sleep with, and there's nothing wrong with that (we've all been there), but perhaps they are missing about on another aspect of women that is just as fulfilling.

I've got to the state now where I realise that if I want to fuck a woman, I can. But what's the point? They shouldn't determine my own self worth. I always try and remember, loads of random fuck buddies aren't going to be there for me if I have serious problems in my life.

In my case, my coldness stemmed from an event that happened when I was 15. A girl broke my heart and it took my 2 years to get over it. But I've started missing not her, but missing the way I felt about a girl like that. I saw her beauty in every moment we had togther and had jealous pangs and my heart would race, etc...

Don't worry, I haven't just popped an E if thats what you're thinking. Just wanted to bring to your attention a different perspective. I might change my mind next week.......................................


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:53 am 
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Recently I've been listening to myself when I talk to my mates about women and I've noticed that PUA terminology has crept in there (of which they are fully aware).

But we've all noticed that it just sounds so fucking contrived when we refer to girls as HB 8, or whatever and we have agreed not to mention any more about this terminology.

Anyway, I'm not judging anyone here. I'm just saying personally I think about how others might percieve my discussions as if its some snotty kid whose just read the game and is trying to impress all his mates.
This is why, my friends and I who are a part of the community have invented a few of our own terms. This is so we can talk openly in public about game and girls without being found out. I, and my friends/wings, feel that some of the terms(especially because of the TV show The Pick Up Artist) are far too mainstream to be used in field anymore. We'd like to be able to talk in code as Mystery, Sinn, and Style were able to do in the beginning of The Game. Granted, we've only come up with a few, because the acronyms and terms are hard to replace...and it's not like we've sat down and really talked about what could replace this or that either.
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I've also been thinking that many guys don't give a shit about the girls they sleep with, and there's nothing wrong with that (we've all been there), but perhaps they are missing about on another aspect of women that is just as fulfilling.

I've got to the state now where I realise that if I want to fuck a woman, I can. But what's the point? They shouldn't determine my own self worth. I always try and remember, loads of random fuck buddies aren't going to be there for me if I have serious problems in my life.

In my case, my coldness stemmed from an event that happened when I was 15. A girl broke my heart and it took my 2 years to get over it. But I've started missing not her, but missing the way I felt about a girl like that. I saw her beauty in every moment we had togther and had jealous pangs and my heart would race, etc...
Then perhaps you're in this to find LTR's and one day a wife. It's my goal to be able to flip through tons of women so that one day I'll find the one that's perfect for me... until then...I'm gonna feed the beast within. You make some good points here, but you see, there's a fulfilling aspect to all this that you speak of. You just have to look at it with a different set of glasses.

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I prefer not to number "HB's" partially for similar reasons you mentioned. I think its natural (for both men and women) to "grade" a potential target (ie: anyone of possible sexual intrest to you) in that first split second you first look at them. However i think its kind of over the top to bring it up in the open, even if said target isnt around.

I also avoid this numbering for another reason, Inner Game. If i tag a "HB" with say a 6...and another with a 9, then i am giving them values that require me to act differently (i mean mentally). Rateing one target a 6 and another a 9, no matter how true, may give me more anxeity when dealing with the 9.

I basically sperate each target from prior ones, the mental process is still there but i leave it at worth my time, or not worth it. If she is attractive enough (and later has a good enough personality) then i will game her. She is no different then any other set. By not rateing them i am able to not compare them and give one more value then the other, potentially crippling me with aproach anxiety.

Thats just my take on it. The terminology helps communicate to other like people what transpired, however just as any other time, i have found it better not to talk about something potentially taboo until i am 100% sure that it will not be in veiw of the person whom i am speaking of. If i need to speak about an interaction with a target id prefer not to do it in front of them if possible, same as id prefer not to talk about a co-worker while im in a situation that they could overhear me in. It's kind of the same concept as Mystery mentions about not getting digits (#-closeing) and then going back to your boys and high fiveing.

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