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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:15 am 
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I'm working on frame control and struggling to create a prize frame (getting her to chase me/ attempt to qualify herself to me).

One example is this over text sitch:

Me: "I get bored really easy. Things, people. I just lose interest. I have to actively try not to some of the time. Even with your crew!"
::Her, her friends, and I had just hung out the day before::

Her: "Haha, I think that happens to everybody a little bit. I'm surprised that you aren't already bored with me."

Me: "If you think I should be bored, then why should I bother?"

::Trying to go cold on her after previously being hot (an attempt at push-pull/hot-cold)::

"What's to keep me interested? Give me a reason."

Her: "No. If you need a reason of sufficient interest to continue texting me, you should obviously be doing something else."

Me:"Woh! A little touchy are we? Let me rephrase that. Why do you think I'm still interested in you?"

Her: "I don't know... That's why I said that."

Me: "Don't worry. I'm sure you'll come up with something. Rest assured, there are reasons."

Her: "Fantastic. I'm going to bed now, goodnight!"


... Did I fuck up going into this one? What do you make of her last response? Tips/improvements.

Also, if there's any sort of fall out from that fail, any corrections you would suggest?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:10 am 
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I can't tell if you are trying to be cocky funny or what? To an outsider it just lOoks like you are being an ass.
If you wanted to be cold you should have just not messages her or given her one word responses. Here it feels like you have instigated an argument....

That being said I don't know what your relationship is like and how your past interactions have gone.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:31 am 
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i think you have the wrong idea, the prize frame is more like, ''im busy and don't need you so if you want my time you have to come to me'' not ''im texting you now tell me why i should like you'',

just start off by getting into her head a bit, make her feel good, toss some value her way, demonstrate to her that your an interesting person worth pursueing, once you have hooked her just actually think in your head is she winning me over? or is she being a bore and just wants you to entertain her? don't feel the need to focus on one girl in particular, don't think you have to make something happen with her in particular, just go try to get as many as you can in your # roster and when she gets boreing just lose interest and maybe hit her up once a week or once every 2 weeks to check in on her interest level, she will eventually crave your attention if your fun to talk/text with and you can use the attention as bait to get her out, when she is out you can escalate and have fun, when not together eventually it will get to the point where she will text/call you all the time and you don't have to contact her as much, this is the prize frame your hoping to set

if your talking about yourself, you are qualifing to her,
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''I get bored really easy. Things, people. I just lose interest. I have to actively try not to some of the time. Even with your crew!"
there is no need to let a girl know anything about you unless she asks, your actions will allways speak louder then your words, if you go out and she thinks your having fun, then you text her that she bores you, you come off as arrogant and incongruent


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I'm working on frame control and struggling to create a prize frame (getting her to chase me/ attempt to qualify herself to me).

One example is this over text sitch:

Me: "I get bored really easy. Things, people. I just lose interest. I have to actively try not to some of the time. Even with your crew!"
::Her, her friends, and I had just hung out the day before::

Her: "Haha, I think that happens to everybody a little bit. I'm surprised that you aren't already bored with me."

Me: "If you think I should be bored, then why should I bother?"

::Trying to go cold on her after previously being hot (an attempt at push-pull/hot-cold)::

"What's to keep me interested? Give me a reason."

Her: "No. If you need a reason of sufficient interest to continue texting me, you should obviously be doing something else."

Me:"Woh! A little touchy are we? Let me rephrase that. Why do you think I'm still interested in you?"

Her: "I don't know... That's why I said that."

Me: "Don't worry. I'm sure you'll come up with something. Rest assured, there are reasons."

Her: "Fantastic. I'm going to bed now, goodnight!"


... Did I fuck up going into this one? What do you make of her last response? Tips/improvements.

Also, if there's any sort of fall out from that fail, any corrections you would suggest?
What's that old saying: If you're bored then you are boring. You should be interesting and value novalty, but that doesn't mean "You're boring me" it should be "I saw this awesome _______, you should have been there, such a great story, I might tell you sometime, oh wait, you were doing ______ at the time, too bad, sounds like you need more fun in your life", You should only give her the appetizer, not the meal. Gaming, especially A1-C2 is all about potential and perception. You have to demonstrate you are the best fucking thing that's walked into her life but in such a way that she always wants more and you don't give it to her until you deem she is worthy.

Also, when framing keep thinking: "She is not the first girl I will pickup, and won't be the last, so the fuck what, what do you got for me, let's see if we click"


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I will echo earlier sentiments to drive the point in further. Concepts like being the prize and not caring do not translate to treating people like shit and insulting them. That's what you did, you tried to pressure her into complementing you by saying you didnt wanna bother talking to her any more unless she convinced you. And by convincing you, its more like you were digging for a complement.


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Thank you all. What I've taken away from your comments thus far:
  • I came off as a dick.

    I should imply things like being too busy with other things.

    Once she actually enjoys the time were having, I should withdraw until she comes seeking me.

    I should actually have other things to do and other girls to spend my efforts on (I've had a prob w/ the multiple girl thing. Mainly, I've been sticking to one girl at a time).
Let me ask you all this: Should I say something to her like "Hey, if I came off as a dick last night, my bad. Nothing I said was really sounding like I meant it to." ??

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I can't tell if you are trying to be cocky funny or what? To an outsider it just lOoks like you are being an ass.
If you wanted to be cold you should have just not messages her or given her one word responses. Here it feels like you have instigated an argument....

That being said I don't know what your relationship is like and how your past interactions have gone.
Her and I debate a lot. And it usually starts with teasing. Kind of the foundation of our friendship in the first place. Suppose I was aiming for this familiar ground. We can usually take something like the subject of boredom and get real philosophical about it. I get the most IoIs from her when we get philosophical w/ each other.

But, I missed my mark on that one completely!

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Have you spoken since?

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Have you spoken since?
Yeah, I texted her this afternoon. "Hey, towards the end of last night, nothing I was TRYING to say came out right. Sorry, if I sounded like a dick to you."

She responded with "Don't worry about it :)"

(Note: she rarely uses emoticons)

Figured that was a pretty non-AFC way to apologize. Owned up to my actions, and what not.

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Seems like it went ok. I still think u may be in damage control though... Either just let her cool off/ freeze her out or get a jealousy plot goin or send her somethin cocky funny. But make it obviously cocky funny.

Altho again, this being said I can't "feel" this situation the same way u can so it's up to you.

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Thanks. I actually think I'm out of the woods on this one, but I'll freeze her out anyways, cause that's sort of what I do well (Also, she just is not one for jealousy- She's way too emotionly cold for that).

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