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Word games........

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When you get too caught up in theories you fail. This is a game of feelings and intuition trying to play a game like that with theories and routines is like trying to grab a fistfull of jello. Go with the gut, have confidence in what it's telling you.


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When you get too caught up in theories you fail. This is a game of feelings and intuition trying to play a game like that with theories and routines is like trying to grab a fistfull of jello. Go with the gut, have confidence in what it's telling you.


+1 right on phangan needs to work on the calibration aspect of his game... I see a lot of guys that know the game like the back of the hand, but are horrible at calibration, let me give you an example in pua theory you do not buy drinks to a girl, but one time i met a girl that just got out of a 10 year relationship, milf, first night out after 10 years,she was into me, everything going well, she wanted a drink, and it was not a shit test or anything, we had been making out for like an hour... So what happened, i went with my pua mode, i do not buy women drinks they buy me drinks, or some stupid shit like that... I lost a snl, lack of calibration...

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Why wasn't I natural?
Just the fact, that you made this post shows that you were not a natural. Naturals don't give a shit about what did or did not happen on certain night-outs. They just go to a club and have fun. Maybe a night there isn't going to be a single number-close. Maybe a SNL is awaiting. Whatever it would be, the true natural will feel GOOD about it. Not bad, not confused, not anything else...just good.


100% correct, but again the woman was not a jerk, she ask him to dance: i would have dance with her seductively like a male stripper, can you clarify, why do you think this girl was a jerk? i don't get it

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In this whole should I complie or not discussion (which is going nowhere and will go nowhere) everybody here tends to miss a good point made by here2play. Being to confident can work counterproductive. And his post was very meaningful.


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100% correct, but again the woman was not a jerk, she ask him to dance: i would have dance with her seductively like a male stripper, can you clarify, why do you think this girl was a jerk? i don't get it
You don't get it because YOU lack calibration. She didn't ask me to dance WITH her. She ORDERED me to that FOR her while she stands there and looks at me. If you don't understand the difference than that's a big problem bro.

Anyway, she was Irish and Catholic, from what I understand those are the hardest to sarge :-)


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100% correct, but again the woman was not a jerk, she ask him to dance: i would have dance with her seductively like a male stripper, can you clarify, why do you think this girl was a jerk? i don't get it
You don't get it because YOU lack calibration. She didn't ask me to dance WITH her. She ORDERED me to that FOR her while she stands there and looks at me. If you don't understand the difference than that's a big problem bro.

Anyway, she was Irish and Catholic, from what I understand those are the hardest to sarge :-)
"A case in point from tonight - a 3 set. HB7s. I start dancing with one of the chicks, getting closer, closer... making out. Great. We dance for maybe 3-4 minutes, making out a few more times, I make sure to always be the one who breaks it off. She puts her hand under my shirt, she looks at me all seductive... it's on. Then she takes a step back and tells me "dance!", looking at the floor in front of me as if giving me instructions to "dance for her"... so I come closer to her and say "I don't take orders from anyone" and back off a little, still inside her air space, smiling, not angry or anything... just being my cool self, the same self she was making out with 20 seconds earlier. "


That is not what you said in the above sentence, if what you describe above, was exactly what happen, you lack calibration and is not a shit test. But, it depends on her voice tonality and body language, if the voice tonality, face/eyes and body language looks like she was ordering you around, then you are right, and you did it half right, however, i really do not like the answer: " i don't take orders from anybody"... I would have said: "you come here and dance" using voice tonality...If it was a shit test, she left cause of the answer...

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Why wasn't I natural?
Just the fact, that you made this post shows that you were not a natural. Naturals don't give a shit about what did or did not happen on certain night-outs. They just go to a club and have fun. Maybe a night there isn't going to be a single number-close. Maybe a SNL is awaiting. Whatever it would be, the true natural will feel GOOD about it. Not bad, not confused, not anything else...just good.


100% correct, but again the woman was not a jerk, she ask him to dance: i would have dance with her seductively like a male stripper, can you clarify, why do you think this girl was a jerk? i don't get it
Hmm... As I reread this post, I just came to see what phangan's reply exactly was to the girl. Pretty arrogant to tell her something like this upfront. I mean... "I don't take orders from anyone" is definitely NOT an answer that shows you're the man who is out for fun...I've fallen into a mistake when evaluating this situation. Even though you've said countless times during this thread that dancefloor game is different, it seems like almost everyone missed the point. And now with realising the problem I might clear things up for phangan also. On the dancefloor...you're not fighting for dominance. It is just all about having fun. Really nothing wrong with dancing for her. It doesn't DLV to the slightest as long as you're feeling that it is fun and don't try to overcomplicate with shits like "oh she's trying to control me". Now I'm not goint to be the one who judge you for this however, since I also didn't see this for the first time...

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mynameisfisher exactly, phangan just confuse the shit out of me, i thought i was going crazy, in my opinion the girl wanted to see him dance for her, like a bachelor party woman or birthday woman that hires a private stripper, but he is saying no, so i am giving him the benefit of the doubt. With that being said i had the same situation happen to me more than 500 times and it has never been a shit test...

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The fact that this is a test comes not from my ANSWER to her, but from what she was asking me to do. The "test" is what the chick says, and how she says it, not what the PUA answers...

But you can just keep sucking each other off, that's OK with me :-)


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The fact that this is a test comes not from my ANSWER to her, but from what she was asking me to do. The "test" is what the chick says, and how she says it, not what the PUA answers...

But you can just keep sucking each other off, that's OK with me :-)


wowoow! dude, you are so humble, done with this post... But i appreciate this post, gave me book material, in the mistakes i will add lack of calibration, and will post this example... so you will be famous...

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The fact that this is a test comes not from my ANSWER to her, but from what she was asking me to do. The "test" is what the chick says, and how she says it, not what the PUA answers...

But you can just keep sucking each other off, that's OK with me :-)
Dude you're missing the point... There are two options here:
1) What she said WASN'T a test
This means that your reaction was TOTALLY NOT acceptable, thus she left.

2) What she said WAS a test.
In this scenario you were too reactive. You should have just ignored it instead of acting so tough and this is why she left.

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She was a bitch who tested to see if she would be able to control me, and when she saw she couldn't - she left.


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She was a bitch who tested to see if she would be able to control me, and when she saw she couldn't - she left.

Right... I don't want to say that is not possible because everything is. But I think that it is very unlikely that if you acted confidently all the way she would try to control you with something like this...

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"You can lead a donkey to the fountain, but you can not force it to drink the water" Or some shit like that....


Puas: you fucked up

Phangan: no she wanted control, she was a bitch


Puas: but base on your writing and your description of incident, and hundreds of similar cases THAT HAPPENED IN THE FIELD, sounds strange, maybe you fucked up.

Phangan: no maybe she fucked up cause she wanted power..

Puas: ok, you may be right, lets say you are right, your answer to the shit test was horrible

phangan: no women want power

This remind me of the post with girl50...


hoping-girls-are-welcome-here-vt98162.h ... ght=girl50

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