Dude that was not being a dance monkey, you should have just dance, no big deal, stop being so reactive, you are worst than me fighting with draper, lol, if you go up to a girl without confidence you will get rejected automatically specially in dance club game, you view of women of looking for guys they can step over is 100% wrong, with that being said, the women will try to manipulate and see how much she can push a guy, is your job as a pua not to allow that, but in your sample you were wrong, and wtf, you are in Ibiza, i said you were doing excellent, i take it back, you should be getting laid left and right omg! I wish i was there... Hygiene, confidence very high up on qualities women are looking for..

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You should have dance, but obviously that is not the answer you want, therefore you will never learn...AS I SAID IN REAL LIFE THEY TELL ME TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME.. It IS NOT A SHIT TEST, dance game is DIFFERENT...

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oooohhh.

OK, now I get it.

Dude... dance floor is your "thing". I assume you are a good dancer, you have a lot of moves etc.

When a chick tells you "dance!" she wants to see your moves.

I'm not some Latin or black dude with some kick ass moves. In your case it is NOT a shit test, they just want to see you dance. HOWEVER IN MY CASE IT WAS A SHIT TEST.

Get it?

You are oversimplifying things.


P.S - I get laid left and right.

I stand corrected, but that is a real weird and unusual shit test, lol! what prompted her to do that, but i was not there, if it really was a shit test then you handle it right...


And if you are getting laid left and right what is the problem keep doing what you are doing, is working..

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A case in point from tonight - a 3 set. HB7s. I start dancing with one of the chicks, getting closer, closer... making out. Great. We dance for maybe 3-4 minutes, making out a few more times, I make sure to always be the one who breaks it off. She puts her hand under my shirt, she looks at me all seductive... it's on. Then she takes a step back and tells me "dance!", looking at the floor in front of me as if giving me instructions to "dance for her"... so I come closer to her and say "I don't take orders from anyone" and back off a little, still inside her air space, smiling, not angry or anything... just being my cool self, the same self she was making out with 20 seconds earlier.

No bro, this is not a shit test! omg! you confusing me, did you write the above because if you did you handle it wrong that is not a shit test... You are crazy dude

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The problem is that I still feel like I'm running a numbers game and not a solid game with improving results over time... but I'm still new at this so I'll give it another 6 months before I really start to hate myself

OK man, I don't know what you are talking about at this point... it's 5:33 AM. Good night.

hahha! good night you are doing good bro! you will get there...

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Let's shift gears a little bit and let me address your general thesis of this thread a little more.

Here is the point I was trying to make earlier. Most men AND women are AFCs. Most people have their own set of insecurities, fears, hang ups, issues and inefficiencies etc etc.

Let's say you played a perfect game and displayed perfect confidence etc etc...what makes you think people actually want that???

My guess is most people are not out looking for the perfect PUA with the perfect lines and perfect game and perfect confidence. I would bet the farm that most people are looking for a regular, normal, decent person that they can connect with and share things in common with and hit it off with.

A normal guy that might a little shy and little awkward at first will probably fit that bill but a perfectly honed and perfectly confident guy may not.

Most people are not used to dealing with people with super high confidence and they don't know how to deal with it. Some people are even put off by it.

Even if someone is not being arrogent or a jerk there are still a lot of people in the world that are uncomfortable around someone who displays atypical confidence.

Just as guys can be intimidated and uncomfortable to point of choking around a stunningly beautiful woman, women can choke around an extremely confident guy.

some things are fundamentally attractive traits but when they go into the extreme they can have the opposite effect.

I think your experiment was valid and I think your results speak for themselves. the proof is in the pud'n.

I do tend to disagree with your conclusions though. I don't think it's that women want someone that they can push around and walk on so much but rather they want a guy that they can relate to and interact with. If someone is displaying extreme confidence and stiffarming them on some simple requests they probably see that person as someone that they wont connect with and relate to well.

Despite the fact how miserably phangan is trying to prove his point and that he was totally natural, which obviously he wasn't... I agree with him in not dancing for some bitch because she asked. She didn't just ASK him to dance WITH her, she like ORDERED him to dance FOR her. And whether it would have been good for the "outcome" or not, it is unaccaptable for a stranger woman like that to tell phangan, me, or anyone what to do. In that situation the woman was the jerk...

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Why wasn't I natural?

It would be "good" for the outcome - because it would have made me a bitch - and apparently women like that.

Women want us to dominate them in BED. And in private. But on a higher level - they want to always be one step ahead.

Why don't you confront me with some of your stories? I WANT to be proven wrong, don't you get it? I want to love women, to respect them, to adore them... but how can I? not like this...

Nobody here knows what I'm talking about? Is this really just a reflection of my beliefs? ALL OF you think I'm wrong and you have NEVER seen any evidence that I might be to at least some degree?

Just the fact, that you made this post shows that you were not a natural. Naturals don't give a shit about what did or did not happen on certain night-outs. They just go to a club and have fun. Maybe a night there isn't going to be a single number-close. Maybe a SNL is awaiting. Whatever it would be, the true natural will feel GOOD about it. Not bad, not confused, not anything else...just good.

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Yeah dont take it too seriously. As much as it is a game, you have to have respect for everyone at all times to be likable by anyone

Haha... this, too, is in my original post:

"On both nights I wasn't able to pull but nevertheless these were good nights as far as I'm concerned... "

I didn't care that I didn't pull. But I'm a thinking person and I'm trying to figure things out. This doesn't make me an "unnatural".

I know you didn't care that you didn't pull. But you did care that things weren't working out like they should have.

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