Hi, I am new to the game but i read this forum from almost half year.Now is the first time I have the need to write about something.
Yesterday we went to a bar with my friend, there was a lot of chicks but with their boyfriends.Later two HB (8 & 9) came into the club and sit to the other bar.. 2 meters away from us.The HB9 was sitting on a chair with her back in front of us (sorry here i don`t know how to write it right in English).After they talk a little this chick turns toward us and sending signals that she want to noticed and to speak with us.My friend is a little bit shy and i went to open the set I use the striptease opener "is it cheating if boys went to a striptease club on bachelor party?" I tell them the story how my friend went to this bachelor party and his girlfriend was mad and accused him of cheating what they think about this and how they will react and such.From here I use a opener for DHV story.How other friend of mine break up with his girlfriend and slept with another girl, she forget her lingerie at his place but later he make up with the ex and she find out the lingerie.He lied that is his and he like to were bikini because of a fetish.He was forced because of this lie to wear this lingerie from time to time and bla bla bla how they feel about this case bla bla bla.
Everything went great the opener the story, they laugh i was interesting guy and they even invite me and my friend to sit with them.And i was very happy the game was like from a book buuuuut the HB9 made up with my friend (i feel happy for him) but this is`t right i made the opener i made the negs the DHV and he just came and made up with her ( i am not mad at him) i wonder when i went wrong where was my mistake or maybe i was ok but she just wanted him all the time...that`s ok but isn't this to be a pick up artist-to seduce her no matter what? )) i will be happy to see some opinion about this ))


p.s. Sorry for my bad English i did`t practice is it from a long time )

Good skills.

But what did you mean that you made the opener?

That opener is a classic in the community.

Matador,the dating coach of Venusian Arts poularized it.

You might've put your twist to it(as you should)but that is not your opener.

Maybe I misunderstood you.

Anyway,your English is perfect to me.

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When I said "I made the opener the negs the DHV" i did`t mean that I was the creator of the opener and other stuff.I wanted to say that i was the guy that apply it (opener and other things.), just use it.) i am sorry if i explain it wrong
Btw when I approach them and say "I need your help!with my friend over there i have this argue about bla bla bla..." the moment i say friend and the girl says "why don`t you bring your friend here/bring your friend here" something like that.When she do that I know she wanted him but i continue to play the game to see can i change that.
My question is when I am pretty sure that the girl wanted someone else like my friend...to quit and just help my buddy or to try to change this and try to make the girl to be attracted to me?

First of all, good job on approaching a HB9! That takes guts.

Your problem is obvious to me.

You didn't build any attraction with the girls! So they didn't see you as the guy they wanted to kiss/have sex with, but rather the guy that makes them laugh.
I'm always the opposite when I'm out with my friends. Girls talk to my friends and laugh with them, but I'm the one smiling at them and giving them intense eye-contact, so I'm the one they end up kissing.


You can approach HB9s, good job. Now you need to learn how to make yourself seem like a sexual object. Try this the next time you talk to girls:

1: Hold eye-contact --- This simple thing have gotten me so many makeouts without even trying. DO IT!

2: Smile seductively, dont laugh uncontrollably --- Cause it will break the sexual tension


Good luck

Im not sure if you can say for sure that the girl wanted your friend.

She might have just wanted to include him in since your opinion opener was about him.

Plus the thing is,if you're addressing a 2 set or more,you should not be directing the question strictly to your target.

If you ask the whole group,then there's less chance your target would jump up asking for your friend.

If it's just 1 girl,well that's a whole different ball game.

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@James The Third - thanks for the advice! i will try to hold an eye contact next time.You were right i didn`t build any attraction.Thats my problem and this is the thing I want to change in me.Its no problem to talk to HB i have done it many times before and the problem is that they don`t take me seriously.I am the funny guy, best friend but not the guy they want to kiss/slept.

@k-loc - In this situlation i ask them both.Maybe i have to ask only the other one and total ignore the victim.But she was very chatty and i can`t think a way to ignore her withouth been rude so i give them equal attention.

The HB8 i didn`t mention it because she was so introvent and not in a mood to talk...total disaster.She have some problems with her boyfriend and just wanted to get drunk.And she did it quite well