Clubs are certainly where i have more problems gaming, even tho I had IoI's before whenever i meet that girl and even I dance with her for while, i can't seem to kclose here. Do you guys isolate her by saying something like lets go talk somewhere less loud , or lets go get some drink, or do you jus Kclose on the dancefloor.

Don't rely on Dancefloor game bro. Girls make out with a lot of guys at clubs, especially on the dancefloor. THe only difference is that while you may think there is a connection on the dancefloor, she may not be thinking anything like that. You could make out with a SHB11 and think its on, and then try to talk to her in 10 minutes and she couldnt care less. If you are looking to game, dont rely on dfloor, if you want one night stands (without really relying on your game) dfloor is a lot better. My advice, stay away from dancing and game near the bar. Its cool to dance, just dont rely on that shit bro

If the venue doesn't have a lobby I skip gaming at that place altogether. I have terrible hearing with loud music in the background so I couldn't start a convo in there if my life depended on it.

Use any lame excuse to get her out of the noisepit. Get a drink then automatically head for the lounge/lobby, start some coldreading thing then pretend it doesn't work with the noise, or even say you can't hear her (do emphasize the fact that she mumbles, not that you're hearing impaired!) and suggest you head for a quiter room.

Stick out your arm like you're escorting her, and go do your thing.

Dance game is quite hard unless you're exceptionally good looking or a good dancer. We PUA's get thrills from gaming girls that are way better looking than we are, which is only possible if you have the opportunity to say what you want to say. If I'm at a difficult venue, I just give myself a night off and enjoy myself without gaming, get wasted, etc.

check out my post on clubbing/dancing kiss closes it covers an extremely easy way to get a girl to kiss you in clubs. the only drawback is you have to be dancing so you have to get her to the dancefloor first and once you do that you can kino her like crazy and use small micro escalations to build her up to being ok with kissing you.

relatively it usually takes 5-10 minutes of dancing but if your in a rush or wanna sarge on ive field tested it and done it in one song of dancing you just have to build her up. check it out heres the link

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