Hey guys,
So I just had a realization while watching something.
It seems like I've been approaching this all wrong:
When approaching a girl, you aren't trying to prove your worthiness to her, but actually you're checking if she is worthy of you.
And most of the time you trying to see check if she's worthy will get her attracted to you.
Does that make sense?
Shookie

sounds about right, its pretty much the same mentality as "you are the prize" 60yoc covers this a plenty amount.

Yup, this is the right direction.

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Yeah
The paradox of seeking validation is that you don't gain her validation.

Most guys you see will seek her approval, trying to prove that he is cool enough to have sex with. however, females have a stronger intuitive sense than males and can feel any neediness or agenda coming off of you. That's why its best to truly not give a damn.

It can also hurt you if you think too much of "she has to prove herself to me" because you can come off as arrogant. There is always a balance to everything

What's higher value than anything else, more than having a rolex and driving a lambo? Being one cool ass dude who spreads positive energy wherever you go. Giving value is important, don't try to suck her value by showing how cool you are and then looking for a response.

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Well, how do you keep this in mind, while not actually being perceived as hitting on her?
For instance, if I walk up to a random girl at the mall and start talking to her, it's obvious that I"m hitting on her, even if I'm checking if she's "worthy"

okay well you probably prefer to be indirect then. Where you will ask what time it is, then maybe ask where she is from, etc. Then you ask for the number.

Indirect is low risk and can work, for sure. But it's just that, low risk. You arent really displaying many dominant masculine traits when you beat around the bush and don't let your true intentions known. Not only that, but you are potentially wasting a lot of time (say you text and talk on the phone for a week, then meet a few times, then she tells you she wants to just be friends) because you are just delaying your true intention.

Direct is better because you get to show her that you have balls and you don't waste time. "Hi, I saw you from over there and just had to come meet you" is kind of direct, she will know if you are a sexual threat. During night game I am more direct, touch a lot, and may open with "you are damn sexy" and gets GREAT results. Spikes her emotions. It's not some boring "hi, how are you doing?" or "hi, what are you drinking?"


http://www.youtube.com/user/Sashathepua ... djZf7Nqbo0
^ great example of direct day game "hi you're fucking sexy"
you should WANT her to know you are hitting on her. that's just my opinion

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Haha tasty.
That's actually a nice vid.
I'd feel like a retard doing that though XD
So, what can I do for THAT to change?

Edit: Can't you feel the girl feels really strange / embarrassed / awkward?

It does seem like they are weirded out, but that the guy's frame is more powerful. At least for the first girl. Direct game is definitely balsy, and I like his off-the-cuff improving. But this particular vid, he seems more whimsical than sexual. Like more of a comedian than a seducer. That may have it's pros and cons, but I feel like zeroing in on that sexual state is more of the idea of direct game. I can definitely learn from this vid tho, as I have a strong frame, but pumping the sexual state is a sticking point for me right now. Thx for the link, taSTy

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Yeah this is part of the problem myself and other aspiring PUA's have. We want to be good at this so bad, we want to master the techniques and tricks. Our hearts are into it, the passion is there. However that passion is a double edged sword. It can lead us to try TOO hard. We have our techniques and when we utilize them we want them to work so bad we forget what the intent of learning them was. The intent is to make US the prize! To make them want us! Not for us to say "hey look at me, like me yet?"

As a hockey player, or if you've ever seen slap shot, there is a phrase called "STICK IT TO THEM, LET EM KNOW YOU'RE THERE", which is when you are a nasty son of a bitch and make your opponent remember you the next time you're on the ice


In pua, we're trying to introduce ourselves with a powerful impact. Leave an impression, get a number and boom chicka waaa waaa all the way into the va jay jay.

There lurks another question behind your realisation: why should you want to seek validation by strange women? There is no reason at all, because it is stupid. People who do not make a part of our life can not control what we think or do. Just be in control on the mountain top.

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I think you've just made me realize something.
I guess you could say I seek validation by people. But it's only from people that I already know. I wouldn't give a **** what someone I've known for an hour thinks. It's irrelevant.
I was saying this on the chat today:
When I was put in a room with women I thought I had no chance with because they were 3+ years older than me, I got hit on by 4. That's 4 more than my previous score.
I know I'm a natural. I honestly am. People around me laugh, have a good time, and work their brain a bit from time to time. But I can't seem to bring it out when with certain people. We can call it AA, or we can call it a pressure of some sort....

Lol.

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