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Quick question. Loved the thread btw.

Is Hip checking just bumping into her so you gain EC and have the chance to open?


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"The hardest part doesn't even involve a girl. it invovles how you act WITHOUT women. Women at a club WILL notice a guy that goes from girl to girl asking to dance and will obviously look down on you. DO NOT ASK A GIRL TO DANCE, NO TALKING, BUT IF YOU ARE DANCING WITH A LOT OF GIRLS POSITIVE, IF YOU GET REJECTED, AND OTHER GIRLS SAW IT, DLV, THAT IS IF YOU GET REJECTED MAKE SURE YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE NOBODY SAW THE INCIDENT The key is to keep moving and avoid staying in one place for too long. YES 100% CORRECT If you see a girl you are really interested in, you can do one of two things: 1.) approach her, tug her hand, and when she makes eye contact ask her to dance (Be careful with the hand tugging, you don't want problems if shes with her man. NO TOUCHING, I ONLY GRAB HANDS ON LATIN, REGGETON, OR SPANISH BEATS, 50/50 SUCCESS RATE, IF YOU CAN AVOID TOUCHING BETTER,If anything get her attention another way and ask. A LOT OF WOMEN LIKE IT WHEN MEN ASK) NO TALKING NO ASKING, ASSUME THE CLOSEor 2.) look at her and wait for eye contact, smile, and if she gives you the que ask her to dance or just get to it. YES!

Once you are dancing with a woman, especially for 2 or more songs, it is smooth sailing. Make moves, touch her, compliment her,NO COMPLIMENTING grab her hand and place it on you/your face.NOT ON YOUR FACE IF YOU GET IN THE DANCING POSITION IN FRONT OF HER GIVING HER THE BACK GRAB THE ARMS ON YOUR CHEST, IF YOU ARE BEHIND AND SHE GIVING YOUR BACK THE HAND BEHIND HEAD/NECK, When shes dancing with a lot of effort and a lot of touching is occuring, grab her hand and turn her fron side towards you and start dancing. MAKE SURE TO KEEP CLOSE WHEN YOU DO THIS. When you great of eye contact, youre faces make contact and rub together a lot, go for it" OK..PUT YOUR RIGHT LEG IN BETWEEN HER LEGS LIKE A PILLOW HUMPING BY THE GIRL...



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"The hardest part doesn't even involve a girl. it invovles how you act WITHOUT women. Women at a club WILL notice a guy that goes from girl to girl asking to dance and will obviously look down on you. DO NOT ASK A GIRL TO DANCE, NO TALKING, BUT IF YOU ARE DANCING WITH A LOT OF GIRLS POSITIVE, IF YOU GET REJECTED, AND OTHER GIRLS SAW IT, DLV, THAT IS IF YOU GET REJECTED MAKE SURE YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE NOBODY SAW THE INCIDENT The key is to keep moving and avoid staying in one place for too long. YES 100% CORRECT If you see a girl you are really interested in, you can do one of two things: 1.) approach her, tug her hand, and when she makes eye contact ask her to dance (Be careful with the hand tugging, you don't want problems if shes with her man. NO TOUCHING, I ONLY GRAB HANDS ON LATIN, REGGETON, OR SPANISH BEATS, 50/50 SUCCESS RATE, IF YOU CAN AVOID TOUCHING BETTER,If anything get her attention another way and ask. A LOT OF WOMEN LIKE IT WHEN MEN ASK) NO TALKING NO ASKING, ASSUME THE CLOSEor 2.) look at her and wait for eye contact, smile, and if she gives you the que ask her to dance or just get to it. YES!

Once you are dancing with a woman, especially for 2 or more songs, it is smooth sailing. Make moves, touch her, compliment her,NO COMPLIMENTING grab her hand and place it on you/your face.NOT ON YOUR FACE IF YOU GET IN THE DANCING POSITION IN FRONT OF HER GIVING HER THE BACK GRAB THE ARMS ON YOUR CHEST, IF YOU ARE BEHIND AND SHE GIVING YOUR BACK THE HAND BEHIND HEAD/NECK, When shes dancing with a lot of effort and a lot of touching is occuring, grab her hand and turn her fron side towards you and start dancing. MAKE SURE TO KEEP CLOSE WHEN YOU DO THIS. When you great of eye contact, youre faces make contact and rub together a lot, go for it" OK..PUT YOUR RIGHT LEG IN BETWEEN HER LEGS LIKE A PILLOW HUMPING BY THE GIRL...



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pLease clarify: "NOT ON YOUR FACE IF YOU GET IN THE DANCING POSITION IN FRONT OF HER GIVING HER THE BACK GRAB THE ARMS ON YOUR CHEST, IF YOU ARE BEHIND AND SHE GIVING YOUR BACK THE HAND BEHIND HEAD/NECK, "

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NO TOUCHING, I ONLY GRAB HANDS ON LATIN, REGGETON, OR SPANISH BEATS, 50/50 SUCCESS RATE, IF YOU CAN AVOID TOUCHING BETTER,If anything get her attention another way and ask. A LOT OF WOMEN LIKE IT WHEN MEN ASK) NO TALKING NO ASKING, ASSUME THE CLOSEor "


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i know sorry, hard to explain, if you are dancing with her you turn giving her your back and you grab her 2 hands with your two hands and you lead her to feel up your body (chest and stomach), if you are back of her and she is in front, you lift her hand and put it behind your neck...i advise this after she is warm and receptive i am just critiquing what you were saying..

Do not ask a girl to dance when opening(assume she wants to dance) and use your body language to dance with her make it look accidental or not plan, you just happen to dance with her(also use the 3 second rule)...

to open do not grab her hand(opening), unless latin music(merengue, salsa, regetoon, or latin beats for example shakira) i do have a 50/50 success/rejection rate doing this... well more likely 3 out of 5 and when i do grab it i go into a sensual slow 360 turn like hard to explain kind of like belly dancer(but not really) when doing the 360 turn lol!

is hard to explain all this stuff i am going too see if i can post a video eventually..

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2 movies come to mind to my idea/style of what dancefloor game should look like and dirty dancing, saturday night fever, if you notice both style guys pua sensual sexual alpha, now I DO NOT DANCE LIKE THAT BUT THAT GIVES a good idea of what dance floor game is and how you should act, and the feeling people should have and women when they dance with you:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8f4ejOIo5U


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i know sorry, hard to explain, if you are dancing with her you turn giving her your back and you grab her 2 hands with your two hands and you lead her to feel up your body (chest and stomach), if you are back of her and she is in front, you lift her hand and put it behind your neck...i advise this after she is warm and receptive i am just critiquing what you were saying..

Do not ask a girl to dance when opening(assume she wants to dance) and use your body language to dance with her make it look accidental or not plan, you just happen to dance with her(also use the 3 second rule)...

to open do not grab her hand(opening), unless latin music(merengue, salsa, regetoon, or latin beats for example shakira) i do have a 50/50 success/rejection rate doing this... well more likely 3 out of 5 and when i do grab it i go into a sensual slow 360 turn like hard to explain kind of like belly dancer(but not really) when doing the 360 turn lol!

is hard to explain all this stuff i am going too see if i can post a video eventually..
I put her hand on my neck when Im dancing with a girl. Usually when they start carressing me and move their hand to my cheek/push my face against hers/ etc, its usually a 'go'

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Hi, I need help with dancefloor game too! my success is zero!!! if there is any expert out there willing to help a brother out would be much appreciated

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Hi, I need help with dancefloor game too! my success is zero!!! if there is any expert out there willing to help a brother out would be much appreciated
I'm no expert, but I can tell you that you should start by just reading this thread (if you haven't already) and if you have questions make them more specific, cause no expert will be able to tell you anything now, short of a full guide.

I just finished reading and have a few questions of my own of which I couldn't find the answers here, hope someone can answer:

1) Often I find myself alone on the dancefloor (whoever I was talking to had to leave for whatever reason) and it feels pretty awkward. Is that just my feeling, or does it really look strange when someone is dancing on their own (like girls thinking I'm not social because I'm on my own)? How does it look when I just dance on my own, having fun and keeping my eyes open to look for sets to get into (as opposed to looking around needy/looking lost).

2) I've read a lot on you kclosing girls on the dancefloor and getting numbers, but how often do you get a lay from dancefloor gaming? Do you ever take girls home the same night?

3) I tried opening sets by just dancing into the set, and that gets me very strange looks, as if I were an alien budging in. Do I get those looks cause I shouldn't be opening like this, or is it more probably that I should work on the energy I'm showing (=it could work if done with the right vibe)? Also: I've read quite a bit about what you shouldn't do, and I read Juice talking about the hip-bump, but I was wondering how else you can get into a set? (and here I don't mean the ones where girls are coming towards you and dance in front of you or give similar signs (don't recognize them all yet, though), cause then I know I can just go in and dance with them)

4) Skills, you posted 2 vids (could access only the second) and you said that it gave the idea on dancefloor game, though we shouldn't copy the dancing. How should I dance to get the IOI's and get the game going? Any example video's you could give me? Oh, and I think there are 2 kinds of dancing: one is to get the attention, like when in a group/with friends/on your own and the 'close-dancing' to get the vibe up once you've started gaming a particular girl. Can you can give me advice on both the first type and making sure she gets not bored on the second?

Lastly: with dance game it doesn't really matter if it's in college setting or a random club somewhere, does it?

Thanks a lot!


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I'm no expert, but I can tell you that you should start by just reading this thread (if you haven't already) and if you have questions make them more specific, cause no expert will be able to tell you anything now, short of a full guide. THANKS!

I just finished reading and have a few questions of my own of which I couldn't find the answers here, hope someone can answer:

1) Often I find myself alone on the dancefloor (whoever I was talking to had to leave for whatever reason) and it feels pretty awkward. CHANGE THE FRAME Is that just my feeling, YES!or does it really look strange when someone is dancing on their own (like girls thinking I'm not social because I'm on my own)? DEPENDS HOW YOU LOOK, IF YOU ARE CONFIDENT HAVING FUN DANCING DHV THEY WILL GIVE YOU PROXIMITY AND EVEN OPEN YOU,How does it look when I just dance on my own, having fun and keeping my eyes open to look for sets to get into (as opposed to looking around needy/looking lost). NEVER LOOK LOST, DLV, READ MY RESPONSE I COVER THESE ISSUES

2) I've read a lot on you kclosing girls on the dancefloor and getting numbers, but how often do you get a lay from dancefloor gaming? EASIER THAN REGULAR GAME, BUT HIGHER BUYERS REMORSEDo you ever take girls home the same night? ALL THE TIME!

3) I tried opening sets by just dancing into the set, and that gets me very strange looks, as if I were an alien budging in. SOME GIRLS JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN AMONG THEMSELVES, IF YOU CAN NOT OPEN MOVE ON, OR CHANGE YOUR APPROACH/CALIBRATION Do I get those looks cause I shouldn't be opening like this, or is it more probably that I should work on the energy I'm showing (=it could work if done with the right vibe)? Also: I've read quite a bit about what you shouldn't do, and I read Juice talking about the hip-bump, but I was wondering how else you can get into a set? DO NOT RECOMMEND HIT BUMP (and here I don't mean the ones where girls are coming towards you and dance in front of you or give similar signs (don't recognize them all yet, though), cause then I know I can just go in and dance with them)

4) Skills, you posted 2 vids (could access only the second) GO RENT DIRTY DANCING OR YOUTUBE, SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER and you said that it gave the idea on dancefloor game, I SAID THE FEELING WOMEN SHOULD HAVE WHEN THEY ARE WITH YOU, though we shouldn't copy the dancing. EXACTLY BUT SENSUAL/SEXUAL/COCKY/ALPHA DANCES,How should I dance to get the IOI's and get the game going? Any example video's you could give me? RICKY MARTIN, JUSTIN TIMBERLAND, BOY BANDS, MALE STRIPPERS, WILL SEE IF IN THE FUTURE I COULD PUT A VIDEO, Oh, and I think there are 2 kinds of dancing: one is to get the attention, EXACTLY like when in a group/with friends/on your own and the 'close-dancing' to get the vibe up once you've started gaming a particular girl. YES!Can you can give me advice on both the first type and making sure she gets not bored on the second? ESCALATE, CALIBRATION GAME, YOU NEED TO KEEP HER ENTERTAIN AT THE SAME TIME TURN HER ON LIKE THE VIDEOS I POSTED...

Lastly: with dance game it doesn't really matter if it's in college setting or a random club somewhere, does it? NOOOOOO, COLLEGE GIRLS EASIER, USUALLY THEY DRINK A LOT/BUT SOMETIMES SOCIAL PROOF, DEPENDS..

Thanks a lot!

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Skills did you just hijack this thread?


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Honestly, I have learned when going to a club just be yourself and don't worry about how dumb you look. Most girls there aren't the best dancers so seeing you try and fail makes them feel better about themselves. Ive picked up many girls in clubs on the dance floor and I am far from graceful on my feet. Just open up and have a good time, smile and be yourself the girls will come to you. Plus being a guy all you need to do is stand there and let the girl do her thing!!!


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Ok adding these in the mix. My question based on what happened.

1. What are you guys take on changing target within a set which has happened to me more than ones already. Basically I get in the set only to realize that her friend is more of my vibe/energy or her friend is more receptive or giving out major IOI
How do you switch?
In this situation I always end up dancing with both one girl on each arm but this prevent me from escalating on my new target. What's a good way to drop her friend(my first target) without her feeling bad and dragging off my new target?
In the end it is what it is but should I try to sugar coat it or do I just switch and leave my original high n dry?(note for the most part I pick the one I want but this ha happened)


2. If your in a set that your not quiet locked in yet and they tell you they are relocating/moving to other part of dance floor for whatever reason, should you follow them(asumming that the girl Isn't dragging you off with them or invite you)
Usually it's like in the begining where she hasn't warmed up to me and her friends wants to move. So it's very neutral on whether they want to leave without you or take you.

3. This one is an odd question if your wing is on a set and his target showed major IOI towards you what's a good rule to have on these situation?
The reason I ask is my wing last night met this girl but the way her interest level was (by looking at body language and reciprocating) I knew he was crashing that set. Anyways I ran into him in the bar and he introduced me to her and her friend(taken with one of my friend lol) she gave me major IOI that ITS ON.(she held my hands for a long time when we did intro and held it way after. gazed straight into my eyes and her face brightened when she first looked at me, then was hovering really close to me at the bar when I was waiting to get my redbull(she wasn't buying drinks and her friends is a few feet away) anyways it was basically enough IOI that I could have just spin her around and kiss her. Anyways so I ignored her because I didn't feel like stealing my wings target which ofcourse drove her crazy and was dancing right in front of me till I walked away lol but as I thought my wing crashed the set but by then she got the hint that I wasn't going to go for her that she just ignored me.
What do you guys think? I ask him about it on the way home and he thought he was locked in for sure but I saw the opposite.(he came out empty no close)

I know there's plenty of other girls but I hate to waste a good talent not to mention she was easily 8.5-9.


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1. What are you guys take on changing target within a set which has happened to me more than ones already. Basically I get in the set only to realize that her friend is more of my vibe/energy or her friend is more receptive or giving out major IOI
How do you switch? .
In this situation I always end up dancing with both one girl on each arm but this prevent me from escalating on my new target. What's a good way to drop her friend(my first target) without her feeling bad and dragging off my new target?
In the end it is what it is but should I try to sugar coat it or do I just switch and leave my original high n dry?(note for the most part I pick the one I want but this ha happened) TRICKY QUESTION, IF IS EARLY IN THE INTERACTION, NO PROBLEM, IF THE FIRST GIRL LIKES YOU AND YOU GO TO THE SECOND MAY BE A PROBLEM AND YOU MAY LOSE BOTH, IF THE FIRST GIRL IS NOT THAT INTO YOU, AND YOU GO TO THE SECOND AND THE SECOND INTO YOU, WING COMES INTO PLAY, OR ENCOURAGE SOME COOL/DECENT GUY FROM THE CLUB THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW TO DANCE WITH THE FIRST GIRL, OR THE FIRST GIRL WILL NOTICE(IF SHE IS COOL WITH SKILLS WHAT IS GOING ON, AND LET YOU GET HER FRIEND), THEN SHE WILL LEAVE HER ALONE AND GO TO THE BAR OR TO OTHER PART OF THE CLUB OR WAIT FOR ANOTHER DUDE TO OPEN HER.


2. If your in a set that your not quiet locked in yet and they tell you they are relocating/moving to other part of dance floor for whatever reason, should you follow them(asumming that the girl Isn't dragging you off with them or invite you)
Usually it's like in the begining where she hasn't warmed up to me and her friends wants to move. So it's very neutral on whether they want to leave without you or take you. YOU ARE EXAGGERATING YOUR CLAIM GIRLS DO NOT TELL THE GUY THEY ARE MOVING SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY JUST DO, WHICH IS IOD/REJECTION, IF THEY DID TELL YOU THAT MEANS THEY WANT YOUR COMPANY, BUT THAT IS RARE SPECIALLY SO EARLY IN THE INTERACTION, DO NOT FOLLOW, DO NOT CHASE UNLESS THEY INVITE YOU USUALLY BODY LANGUAGE OR GRABBING YOUR HAND OR VERBALLY.

3. This one is an odd question if your wing is on a set and his target showed major IOI towards you what's a good rule to have on these situation? SHE MAY BE SHIT TESTING YOUR FRIEND.
The reason I ask is my wing last night met this girl but the way her interest level was (by looking at body language and reciprocating) I knew he was crashing that set. Anyways I ran into him in the bar and he introduced me to her and her friend(taken with one of my friend lol) she gave me major IOI that ITS ON.(she held my hands for a long time when we did intro and held it way after. gazed straight into my eyes and her face brightened when she first looked at me, then was hovering really close to me at the bar when I was waiting to get my redbull(she wasn't buying drinks and her friends is a few feet away) anyways it was basically enough IOI that I could have just spin her around and kiss her. NO TOO FAST, EVEN IF NOT WITH YOUR FRIEND.Anyways so I ignored her because I didn't feel like stealing my wings target which ofcourse drove her crazy and was dancing right in front of me till I walked away lol but as I thought my wing crashed the set but by then she got the hint that I wasn't going to go for her that she just ignored me. AS I SAID SHE MAY BE SHIT TESTING YOUR FRIEND
What do you guys think? I ask him about it on the way home and he thought he was locked in for sure but I saw the opposite.(he came out empty no close) WELL YOU MAY BE RIGHT, BUT THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR WING, I GUESS YOU MAY BE RIGHT BECAUSE HE DID NOT CLOSE, YOU AND YOUR WING HAVE TO TALK WHAT IS IN PLAY AND WHAT IS OFF LIMITS.

I know there's plenty of other girls but I hate to waste a good talent not to mention she was easily 8.5-9. I KNOW SOMETIMES MY WING GETS THE GIRL THAT I WANTED I GET STUCK WITH THE ONE I DID NOT WANT, BUT WE DO NOT FIGHT/COMPETE FOR TARGETS.

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1. Thanks ya I guess nothing ventured nothing gained lol

2. No exaggeration, doesnt happen often but it happened again last night which prompt this question. Basically it's a move for space ex: a spot open up or closer to the stage etc. In those few times it happened I just walk away as they walk and sometimes I run into the same set later in the night and continue on where I left off which again why I'm asking because maybe I should follow? Or maybe I'm doing the right thing lol
And I know what you mean the iod is very different from this, your talking about dancing with your target and she then would just stop and dance away or dance in the middle of her group or leave elsewhere etc. That I recognize as a rejection no problem.

3. Not fight of compete for target but I was thinking setting a boundary on if your your heading south in the interaction. I was thinking whoever has the target calls it. I've walked away from my targets before simple because it wasn't heading to where I want it to go, my wing saved or recovered for lack of a better word 2(from what I recal) girls for himself. Were still in early stage so we both see eye to eye that it's just practice. I was just curious if anyone employs such things.

And ya I know but some of my fav club moments are from instant makeout so with the right IOI I'd take my chances lol


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