Ok so I went out last week and f-closed a HB9 by using a lot of harsh negging ("you have 5 minutes to impress me or Ill talk to those girls"). Basicially I was pretty harsh to her all night, and she seemed to like it.

At the time she was close to getting back together with her boyfriend of 1 year, but I think she liked me better. She is out of the country a lot and we planned to be f-buddys, but now she says she has gotten back with her boyfriend. She has given me IOIs about possibilities of maintaining f-buddy status, although the AFC inside me blew it by chasing her.. How do I play it from here? Chase/LJBF(so she will want what she cant have)???

Any good lines to use here? I dont want a relationship, just an f-close from a girl I [b]really[/b] like

Thanks

You were supposed to be FB's but you've already been chasing her since LAST WEEK? Damn. So, she's out of the country? So she has a b/f? If she thought you were a good enough FUCK and you were an actual ALPHA male, then she would maintain that FB status with you, regardless of having a b/f somewhere else. Who knows what he even gives her? Maybe he pays her bills or something? I don't know. What it boils down to, is, if you AMP UP her attraction to you, and if you BLOW HER mind sexually, she WILL want you. And, if she wants you bad enough, she WILL find a way to have you. But you can't resort to being AFC to accomplish this. Chasing her if AFC. Complimenting her for no reason is AFC. Calling, leaving messages, texting with no response, all of that is AFC. Your best bet right now, as long as she has a way to contact YOU, is for you to sarge and hook up with other girls. Find another FB. Maybe she'll come around, maybe she won't. But, if she does, you'll still be better off if you've already gotten another FB in the meantime.

Thanks for the response, I think deep down I knew I was blowing it but I really liked her. Anyway lesson learned on that score.

The sex was pretty amazing actually (at least so she said) so Im wondering if there could be some buyers remorse or even guilt on her part (it doesnt help that she told her boyfriend about it)

Anyway Ill try to freeze her and let you know how it goes

WHOAAAAAAAAA buddy. The sex was pretty amazing . . . at least that's what she SAID? Ok, cool . . . but how did she ACT IN THE MIDST OF THE SEX? It doesn't fucking matter if she told her b/f about it. What matters is did she REALLY think the sex was that great. Yes, obviously since she told her b/f (do you know this or did she tell you this?) then she had some kind of regrets, which in itself isn't good for you. So, you have the question of just how strong IS her relationship with her b/f? Yep, freeze her out. Keep us posted.

I agree with the Freeze Out. Good luck. At some point the BF will piss her off, or they'll fight, and she'll dig out your phone number for revenge. That will be your chance to get back to where you were. But don't seem to anxious for it when that call comes. Rehearse it in your mind. What will you say, how will you say it.

This is worth practicing. Do it.

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"how did she ACT IN THE MIDST OF THE SEX?" - She came and to be honest Im pretty sure she loved it.

UPDATE: The freezeout worked, she phoned me up last night to see why I wasnt talking to her. I replied I was busy. She then said she was home sick and depressed so I guessed what a PUA would do and changed the subject and ran DHV stories. She cheered up and wouldnt let me of the phone, every false time constraint made her jump to a new conversation!

However, new problem.. I think that the reason I had this problem to begin with is the fact that she knows i sleep around a bit, and she is a Catholic. She was asking me about how many people I had slept with. I was truthful (9 since being single 2 months ago) and she hated it. Should I have lied? And where do I go from here?

ummm you've bagged 9 chicks in 2 months??? first off good work buddy and in this occasion you either avoid the question altogether or lie your balls off...

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Damn. Fucking A, lol. You've fucked 9 girls in the last two months. And you're worried about this one girl? lol. Yeah, the Catholic thing can have something to do with it. With some Catholic girls, it makes them uptight, but with other Catholic girls, it's the opposite effect, making them so fucking loose they will sleep with any dick that passes them by. Apparently she doesn't fit into the second category, by what I'm understanding, which is good.

So, what was her reaction after you told her that? And yes, the rest of of the convo/interaction between you and her was definitely good. Are you still taking to her NOW?

Firstly, thanks guys for the confidence booster! Ive just spent the last 2 hours trailing posts from newbies giving them pointers as I feel Im doing something right now! I dont even want to mention how many I have k-closed, but Im up to 10 in the f-close stakes

But like I said I have a bit of one-itis for this girl. Shes not showing me to much interest right now so Im planning to take it easy and we will meet up when she gets back (shes in the army - I said we should go paintballing) with her friends and I will throw game at her then (xmas). I plan to begin with a false disqualifier of "we wouldnt have worked anyway, your the type of girl who wants to walk all over a man, and that is definatly not me"

Her reaction when I said about 9 girls was just silence, then a while later asked me about STIs (first said "not that anything will be happenning between us again..."). I relied I got all clear last week and she seemed happy, but Im guessing this was for her own health

Happy practicing everyone

That right there shows she wants you.

It's honestly up to you man but I personally wouldn't touch a girl that doesn't know what she wants (she sleeps with you and then gets back with her bf.. it just doesn't make sense).. but then again.. that's how i run my own game. not yours.

There's basically two options as I don't think freezing her out will do much because if you freeze her out then her bf will step in to replace you.

1. Be self respecting and tell her up front that you don't come in second and that if she decides she wants you then to let her know (i don't really consider this a freeze out).. then let her be for a bit...

2. Be her FB on the side as it seems like she just needs emotional stability from her ex... hey, nothing says you have to be self respecting to get laid

good luck on whatever decision you make and keep us informed man

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Sorry to re-open an old post, but I thought that you guys who gave advice would want to know how it worked out, and hopefully some more advice now

So I took the advice on here and played hard to get and threw in pre-planned DHV stories galore every time she phoned. Last week she asked me to meet her and friend at a bar where she told me she had broken up with her bf to be with me. (she also said that she was only with her bf for emotional stability, or drunken words to that effect) The next day she said she didnt want anything serious, I said neither did I. Last night she told me she used the L word on me. WTF??? Ive only met her twice!! None of it makes sence as she gave me so many mixed signals already, but now oneitis????

I really like her but Im not ready for commitment and I have a conscience. What do I do now?

1) Say I like her but not ready for commitment, although I will fuck her if she pays

2) Ignore it completely and continue to fuck

3) Tell her truthfully that I dont believe she is in love, just has a case of oneitis. Then continue

4) Assume she is a player which is maybe the only explanation of the mixed signals

5)Walk away

Also, this problem has been happening a lot recently, all I want is f buddys but Ive had "I think your marriage material" "I love you" "I want commitment or nothing" and a stalker all in the past 10 days. But I have made it obvious from start I didnt want commitment. Where am I going wrong?

REALLY like, but only enough to want to get your nuts wet. Interesting.

If that's the road you want to go down dude, you got nothing to lose. Just ask her.

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the best way sounds cheesy man but it works wonders for MLTRs...

she just broke up with her bf, had sex with you, then got back together with him for a month, then broke up with him to be with you because she loves you.. whoa nelly, but this is a bit odd don't you think?

Tell her that because of what happened last time you want to take things slow. She's met you twice and already loves you? Whoever said relationships had to be serious to start out with? ask your parents... they probably dated around even when they were dating in college and what not.

Tell her you don't want to rush into things.. my routine i use for this is talking about how what you hate the most is when you get into a serious relationship too soon, and then the more time you spend in it the harder it is to get out of when you really need to and the more likely it is to fail because you got serious too soon. Tell her you're not gonig to be an asshole and lie to her.. you like her but you don't love her because that would be way too soon... just let thinks happen and feelings develop (which in your case it sounds like you just want fun... plus, you have feelings?)

good luck man and kill it... if you need more details on how that works then message me about it as it's a golden routine for MLTRs

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