There are a lot of indications that I can pick up just by reading your replies considering this particular guy without readings your texts.

To be honest - frankly said. He's showing you a lot of interest, you said it yourself.. "In the beginning he almost immediatly put his hand on the small of my back"
-> You can't get any clearer then that.

Then other indications are that he kept contact in the beginning and nothing at the end. This is clearly sexual, he wanted to escalate physicly while not having the courage to do it all himself. He missed the participation of you!

To make it really obvious for you.. since Draper said that most of the texts went about "Gym" and such.. it's just turn-of. Guys, talk with eachother about the gym, not with the ladies. That's actually turn-of for most of them. Since you responded to the fact that was going to the gym, he problebly got spooked.

You NEED to keep it sexual, I can't stress it enough.

~LD

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For girls, picking up a guy can be as simple as touching hair a lot. Gives guys the confidence to escalate, and an opening to feel comfortable enough to do anything around you.

Integrate your sentences so they have a sexual double entendre (innocently of course).

Kino as well?

Well the hand on the back was one thing, but that same weekend he gave many mixed signals that could have also indicated he wasn't interested. He would say lets go dance or lets get a drink but then he would just take off without me and go off by himself. Even my friends were beginning to think he had no interest. By the end of that weekend I actually was more convinced he had no interest till I received a text from him and was shocked to see he even remembered the city I was from.

I made a strong attempt to flirt with him. He did not make any attempts or even initiate anything sexual with me. The texts about gym talk were actually a last resort. The first week things seemed okay, but the second week his response time to my texts suddenly increased and it seemed he wasn't as interested in talking to me. I had to initiate that conversation after a 5 day period of not hearing from him. When I felt like he probably wasn't going to text me again, I knew I could probably get him to text by talking about the gym and thats why the gym talk came into play.

LOL threads with a female OP blow up so quickly over here.

Here's my last advice, I can't see how much more you'll need. He may be interested, or he may not be, or anywhere in between. You'll never know unless you get in contact with him and let him know somehow that you want him. You're the one that has met this guy, and none of us know what your personality is like, so none of us can tell you what to say, but don't be shy.

At the same time, he hasn't been proactive in getting to know you, so have some self-respect and don't let him dominate your thoughts! You're spending a lot more time thinking about this guy than he's spending on you. I'm sure you're a great girl, and if you express your interest to this guy and he doesn't recognize that, he doesn't deserve your time.

The problem with girl50 is typical girl!


Girl50: is this guy interested?

Puas: no he is not

Girl50: but he is because________

Puas: welll maybe he is now that you put it that way, find out by doing this...

Girl50: but then again he is not


puas: ok move on


Girl50: but i just i like him


puas: ok try this too see if he does


girl50: no i know my selfworth...


lmao!!!!!!!

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Thanks! I decided to just shoot him a text and if he responds, great! If he doesn't, his loss. Its been 2 weeks since he called and about a week and a half since I left him a response to his call. I always have an overwhelming fear that if I text a guy more than he's texting me and I get left hanging that I come off needy or desperate and I will feel like he thinks I'm a loser. I have made some mistakes with guys before by over-texting and have learned from them. Usually it has ended with me texting and not getting a response. However, I think in this case I have handled the situation well and if I don't get a response I won't care too much. I think my biggest fear then will just be how to react if I see him next year.

Anyways, I just sent a text to him that was pretty generic and said "hey whats up." We will see where things go from there and if he does respond I will certainly let you guys know. I really appreciate all the advice. It also really makes me feel better to know that I did not mess up. Given that I have messed up in the past, I always have that fear and it is nice to have all of you here help me and assure me that I did not screw up. Thank you!

girl50 maybe this will help you:


When most men meet a girl and they like a girl(no pua guys, typical mortals), this is the typical behavior:

When she text, they get all exited, and text back right away...

They text constantly and call constantly..

They always in the phone convo. have a lot of pauses, and are calculating/a bit nervous on the conversation, somewhere in the convo. they will say so what are you doing this weekend, or some stupid shit like that... Hope it helps.


The guy is not interested, but good for you to find out for sure, there is not such thing as failure, just lesson learned, and class always in session, or something like that...

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Oh I wish I had known sooner! I would not have texted him! What would a pua do as opposed to the typical guy you described?

Btw... I got the impression this guy is pretty experienced when it comes to girls.

Girl 50 that is what told you before, i told you this guy may have game if you re-read the whole post, i told you that if you are that attracted to him, he either looks good or has sex appeal, or has game and the same thing you see in him other women see in him. I told you this, because in some of his behavior he reminds me when i am not interested( i do not text back that much ), so i can only talk about for me and my game, there are couple of posts on text game, but when i text, i am cocky-funny, witt, challenging, with options, sexual, i take my time to text back, and i tell them to meet me someplace fast, and she knows there is 90% chance we will do it(sex)...

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I see. Well because of the distance it would be impossible just to make immediate plans to hang out. You are right about texting back. To me, it seemed the first week he was interested. That was the first convo u saw. I think the second week he lost interest as his texting changed a lot.

However, why do guys bother with girls they have no interest in? I don't understand that. Or even sending a follow up text? There's no point when there is no interest.

Ego, feels good to have girls interested just ego shit...

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Hey guys, so heres what happened. I got a text today from him and it said "Hey! Flying to india tommorow!" then another text that said "whats your email address?" So I joked with him a little and said how long are you going for? don't come back a fob lol. Then I gave him my email address.

So I never get another text back. As I'm leaving work I check my emails on my iphone and the subject says "need your opinion... will take only 2 minutes of your time!" However my phone says this message has no content. So I shoot him a text that says "u do realize u sent me a blank email?" and he replied back "weird.. you sure you didn't get anything? I'll send it again when I get home." I said "it says this message has no content." Now, I check my computer and am able to see the message.

It was a generic message he must have sent to all of his friends that are girls that basically asked questions because he was considering launching a potential product. Basically he wanted to launch a greeting card service that men would pay for to have a greeting sent monthly to their gf to do something nice for them whether it be take the girl somewhere special or something more kinky. He wanted to know whether a girl would like the idea or hate it. Now I don't even know if I should help this guy out and reply. I mean I could because this would give him the opportunity to see what a great gf I would be and what he's missing out on. This would give me an opportunity to show him how I feel about relationships and make it a little sexual. As a girl I don't really believe in setting demands in a relationship. I don't think many girls out there are like that. I don't think a guy should feel obligated to do nice things for me or spend time with me. I think he should do it because he wants to and because he is in the mood. Also, I could show him my maturity level too because thats another reason he could not have interest. I find it hard to fathom that he is not attracted to me just because I know for a fact at this convention that a majority of the girls were not that attractive and I was one of the best looking girls there. I assume his disinterest must be because of the age and distance. I don't think body language lies and I do believe he must have had attraction.

Sounds to me like your problem is solved! He's going to India but still took the time to get your email. He hasn't been contacting you excessively, so be happy about that and enjoy this new relationship you're building! Maybe the email is a routine he uses to game girls, or maybe its an honest business venture. Whether or not you answer will probably have no effect on your new friendship. Have fun!!

Honestly, I think he has no interest. I believe it is an actual business venture. He sent actual greeting cards as examples in his email. I think his sole purpose in getting my email was for business purposes

What a waste of time forget this dude!

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