Hey I'm reading Carlos Zuma's book about the Alpha man and while I was reading I noticed something


The only people I desire to hang out with are alpha. All of my best friends are alpha males. No doubt. Meaning they live by their own advice, are natural leaders, focused, secure, and always successful with ladies. I never noticed this until now. I have friends who don't have these characteristics but I am usually bored and uninterested when hanging with them...



The same goes for women. I am extremely attracted to women who are comfortable with themselves. They are survivors and independent. They do not need me. I am not attracted to girls who lack this sort of confidence.



Now, here's the thing I don't know what that says about me lol. People consider me as more of a quiet leader. I do my own thing, and speak freely but I'm typically more reserved. I'm not perfect and I do doubt myself, especially recently after a bad breakup with my ex. I may not necessarily be the AMOG of the group every time. I don't try to be. I just act myself... my friends say that I'm genuine.


Are alpha men destined to be friends with other alphas or alpha women? Or is it possible I'm trying to fill some sort of void by being around people with traits that I admire...But if that were true why would they want to be friends with me?

I'm with you man. I dont need to be a character entertaining a crowd or ordering my friends around, which seems to get confused with being alpha in this community sometimes. You're questioning whether you are really alpha because you don't fit the rock star profile? Dude odds are you're fine. We all have highs and lows in life, and the lows suck...that's why they're lows. Being loud doesn't make you alpha, nor does being a dick. If you are confident in yourself, speak up when the need arises without feeling fear of confrontation, and are even described by others as being a genuine person, you're pretty much set.

As for seeking out other personalities, I at least do that all the time. Some of my best friends are loud and boisterous. It brings some balance to my social life. If I only hung out with other guys that could be described as the strong silent type, our conversations would suck because they would all consist of a dozen words. I have good friends that are very religious whereas I do not delve often into spirituality. I am thinking you're just still feeling a little down about the breakup and are questioning whether you are truly alpha or just looking for someone to make you look alpha. I think you're fine, dude, relax.

hey man. i find your question to be a very interesting concept. being any person, a pua or more importantly yourself, you decide your own destiny. if sure you have experienced the same thing as most guys have, when people tell reassuring things e.g. just be yourself, the girl will find you some day. all this stuff is full of rubbish. what pua has taught me is to make my own destiny, potentiate any opportunity and make it my own.

to me, if a person know what he wants and makes it his effort and determination to get it. i see that person as an alpha male. being an alpha male enables to do anything that you want, get the job that you want, get any people to be friends with you, make any woman fall in love with you, get to sleep with any woman that you want.

it relation to you. you can be friends with who ever you want. there are pros and cons being with the alpha group.

pros: you become a member of an extremely socially active group, the group can have great influence to other social groups, access to life's luxuries, they will have business connections with high powered people and could lead you to a greater job, these people can teach you how to become one of them and learn their secrets to seduce business people and beautiful women, they can make things easy for you and introduce you to the women and give you DHV.

cons: they can turn you down for anything business or socially related, they would think that you will affect success either because you are a bad AMOG or perhaps you will become a better pua that they'll be threatened by you and will try to ruin you, they cannot be 100% trusted as much as family and friends, they'll ruin your reputation with women and wont offer them to you even if you do it for them.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude

It's funny because I never actively looked to surround myself with these sort of people. I just noticed today that I do. It's easier to joke around with them (less sensitive and self conscious) and generally more exciting to be around as they are more sociable. They aren't pua's (in fact the smoothest is married). They are witty, confident, and demand respect. They are generally older than me (I'm 22 and my best friends are in their early 30's or mature for their age)


I don't want to give my life story but this is the reason behind the insecurity. I had a gf for 5 years who I put on a pedestal. Everyone admired me, I was confident and outspoken, yet very grounded. I got straight A's in college, guys wanted to be me and girls wanted to be with me. I was the definition of an alpha male and I had an excellent girlfriend to support me.


I let my confidence get to my head eventually when I had such strong urges to hook up with other girls. They surrounded me. I broke up with my ex. It was awful dude. She saw it coming as she told me I was turning into someone she didn't know. I instantly regretted it but she didn't want to be with me anymore.

I miss her and I wish I could have her in my life but in the back of my head I know I want to be with other chicks at the same time. All this drama has caused me to be more self conscious and insecure. I'm trying to get back to my alpha core. I feel so bad about what happened it's as if I should apologize for being a man and turn into a pussy. This girl that I thought would love me forever no longer wants to talk to me. I hate to admit it but that fucking hurts. It knocked me on my ass and since then I've been a dog with its tail between the legs.

I'm trying to get my balls back here. I got to dig deep and find out who I am again. I tried rationalizing that being passive is "being a good man". However, I was just rationalizing failure. I used to be a good man but I turned into a dick.

Thus, this is the reason why I asked this question. I'm doubting if my friends still recognize those alpha qualities that I have or if I'm trying to hang on to something I admire.

Sorry about the rant... it's crazy talk I know. However, I know the only way I'll be happy is if I do the things that energize me and the only way to do that is to take the man pill.

And I'll tell you what I love the friends I have... In fact, that's why I love this board. I can talk to you like friends even though I don't know you. People here may not have a fucking clue about what they're talking about (including me) but they think they do and that makes for good discussion.


"Show me a man's friends, and I'll show you the man's character"

It seems like certain people are AMOG/PUA in their own special way. some people are louder about it than others. some control the conversation quietly. others dont