Texting back and forth with a girl recently, she said she just got out of a relationship and is sick of "the games". Now usually these are the next girls to get laid by a pua. This one however, about a HB 8.5, almost seems to recognize when I'm trying to run nuclear wit and will get dissmissive. I even had to turn off the pua shit to get her into the conversation. When I don't feel like I'm running game the convo gets stimulating and enjoyable.

What do you all think of the ladies who are tired of games? She's late 20s with a kid but knows she's still hot if that matters.

Most of the tricks and routines on this forum are meant for 20 year old girls. What do they know of real life? "Your" woman just wants to have fun but also looks for a stable future. Which is normal at her age. Just be a man, combine humor with meaningful conversations.

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You know what is hilarious? 100% of all the girls I have known who literally said to me "i don't play games" played them just the same. My friend recently was dating this girl from his work, and she comes over to his place, they're having drinks, and she says 'you should know one thing about me - I don't play games - I'm tired of that.' Ironically, in the dating that ensued after, she basically just constantly was reframing situations for her own advantage. She would call him at 4am, show up at his door in the morning. etc.

In online dating, I have seen a breed of hot young girl who 'has no time' because she has a little kid. She will claim she is 'tired of games' and being hit on. I say do whatever is natural with these. I personally think they aren't tired of games - they are just tired of *weak* game they can see thru....

Girls saying "THERE WILL BE NO GAMES" is bullshit. Even women in their late 20s with a kid. A mature woman wont be attracted to classic immature game tho. Try things along the lines of deep eye-contact. This shows youre in control, and can create the most unbearable sexual tension if you do it stubbornly.

Steer away from childish things like making her jealous by hitting on her girl friends, not responding to her texts for days etc.

Thanks for the responses. Good shit. Funny cause this girl throws game like a pro but wont respond when I throw back until I send another message reframing to a serious conversation. This could be a married attention seeker for all I know.

No matter how many players this girl meets, just keep being who she's naturally attracted to.

"I'm tired of games" Yeah, right.. so you're telling me you're now attracted to genuine romantic nice guys? Uhu...

Is just like my favorite BS line.

"I'm just not ready for a relationship." Which is pretty much just a nice way of saying that she doesn't want to be in a relationship.. with you.

Inconclusive. I had that line before, those girls just can play hard to get. I nailed them.

The "I'm better off alone" is just meaningless talk.

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The 'I don't play games' is BS.

Everyone, whether they no it or not will be running a certain mental program we call 'Game' when they around and attracted to the opposite sex. Whether their 'program' consists of behaviours which gets them the results they want or not, they will still be running 'their program'.

I believe the line 'I don't play games' could be seen as a shit test, or like Teknine said; they are tired of weak game.

'I don't play games'

Why are you no good at them

I think the whole 'I don't play games' line from women is a tactic to get a response. Those are the ones to watch out for. I see them when I'm out, every one of them is trying to get the guy to work harder for it. I have also seen it used as a dismissal when the girl in question is being hit on.
Almost all women that say they don't like being hit on is full of it. We enjoy attention, but what we enjoy the most is being singled out from all of the other females around us by a good looking man. It makes us feel special because there are obviously other women around that he could have picked.
The only time I don't enjoy being hit on is when it's obvious the guy doesn't stand a chance. It makes me feel bad because now I have to reject him when he probably spent a lot of time building himself up to talk to me. I am always nice and friendly about it, but I don't like hurting people's feelings.
As for the girl the OP is asking about, I wouldn't text her back if she didn't respond. Seems like she is running the board on this one because not only do you still text back when you've gotten no reply, but you are also conforming to what she wants. That's a shit test if I ever saw one. Isn't it about them wanting you more than you appear to want them? Good luck! This sounds like a fun challenge...

Aaaand hence why communities like this exist and why PUA boot camps exist.

I know this might sound like a mini rant and it's not against you it's just in general. It's kind of sad and sickening to me that society is built around looks. I mean to a HB8-10, an average looking guy who's skinny but not attractive can't approach a girl and say "i'm genuinely interested in you" and get anything good out of that, but instead we must learn "tactics" and "techniques" to either escalate into fast seduction or to build up a social status..etc.. there's plenty of methods, but anyways..

"if the guy doesn't stand a chance" just seems kind of superficial to me, because he could be one of those great honest guys that women always complain about wanting when in fact they want the complete opposite. Which seems contradictory to say but it's not until they're in their 30s, wasted their entire lives dating eye-candy that they realize "omg I should have given one of those nice honest genuine guys a chance" but by then, they've either met someone else or lost their way and became alpha males.. it's a raw vicious circle.

It's just kind of sad that average looking people can't have a shot with decent women without a routine or system in place.