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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:01 pm 
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Now, i'm new.. yes.. but this seems a bit skeptical to me.

Let me see if I have this down right.

You find a target
You sit down next to her "and your name is?" introduce yourself
Don't let go of her hand and compliment her
Stare into her eyes and make her talk about herself all while keeping a blank stare
Small kino and escalate quickly
Go for hand caressing
Then isolate

Now.. I understand the motto is "Risk creepy" but would this honestly work? This just seems like you're going to end up getting hit a lot or bitched at by friends for being a potential rapist more than you'll end up getting a # close or even F-Close. Anyone have any insight on this whole method here?


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Well... put this way it doesn't sound like much does it?

However, his reasonning is very sound... Yes it encourages you to play a numbers game (though nothing prevents you from reverting to MM if you do not get any IOIs after milking the intro and escalating the vibe).

The only thing I can say to you is... actually go and try it! It's really quite subtle and not all together different from some of Gambler's stuff...

I really like 60 's method... I've incorporated it into my standard game, and it has really worked well for me.


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Well... put this way it doesn't sound like much does it?

However, his reasonning is very sound... Yes it encourages you to play a numbers game (though nothing prevents you from reverting to MM if you do not get any IOIs after milking the intro and escalating the vibe).

The only thing I can say to you is... actually go and try it! It's really quite subtle and not all together different from some of Gambler's stuff...

I really like 60 's method... I've incorporated it into my standard game, and it has really worked well for me.
He's a very smart man and his logic is solid. It just seems odd that you'd be sitting there staring blankly without any facial expression into a woman's eyes you've never met especially when she's with her friends.

NO GIRL goes solo to college bars or pubs, at least in two weeks of going, I've never seen one girl who has went by herself, it's usually with a guy or with a group of girls or a mix.


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I don't do clubs much personally... but I've used it in bars (the target often isolates herself when she goes to get drinks), and in daygame.

It feels a bit weird when you do it in a set, but bear in mind that you don't have to hold the target's hand for ages... just long enough to know in yourself that she's interested...

I've done it at work today, with a new girl, in front of all my colleagues... it's so subtle nobody caught on to it but me and the girl, and I only held her hand for maybe 5-7s, but it was long enough to know it was definitely on!


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60 years of challenge is primarily focussed on your inner game and helps you to get over your AA.

The approach is direct: open-escalate-kino-close. This approach is based on the idea that when you are direct, you show confidence, and girls like that. And that attraction between men-women is already there

While MM is indirect, it is also a more time-consuming method. You start with an opinion question, to try to get the girls attention/interest. The girl thinks that the guy is just wondering about this question and is not trying to seduce her [lower protection shield]. During the conversation the guy shows DHV & Negging. The girls will think that this guy is actually very attractive and not needy. Then the game is turned: the guy makes the girl trying to impress him. This will make her more getting 'involved' and eventually falling for the guy.

I personally think that you should use a mix of these theories. To open a set in a bar, I would use MM. Then during the convo, I will switch to 60 years.

Girls I meet at the gym, I would use MM (more time to play the game ), since I will see them several times

Girls at dancefloor, I would go for 60yrs (open, escalate, kino)


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If your skeptical field test it.

If you fail the first one, 60 also says persistence is attractive, so try again.


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There has to be some attraction for this to work, the girl has to be attracted, or you are her type...I do not see how this could work if the girl is not somewhat attracted to you.. I use something similar to 60 and gunwitch when i do my dancefloor game, I DO NOT TALK, i just escalate escalate escalate, and it works, but again the girl has to be ATTRACTED/INTERESTED at least a little bit...

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All I have to say is this:

I read 60 years of Challenge.

The next time I saw a girl, I used it, and I K-closed.


I was skeptical at first too, but creating massive sexual tension is actually shockingly powerful.

For example, Ive been doing some mild 60years-style on a girl Ive been friends with since I was born. I was in the deepest friendzone ever. Now I got her eye-fucking me, and she even has a fucking boyfriend..

You, sir, will be surprised.


EDIT: It is true, however, what Skills is saying. There will be girls who will get uncomfortable with this style, either because the sexual tension is too much for them, or simply because youre not their type.


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james the third, i only read some posting from the 60 methood, which one of his book do you recommend????? i got a say i just finish reading mm i am disappointed...

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I bought "60 Years Of Challenge Complete Game Revision System" about a year ago I think, maybe more.

There was 4 compendiums in it, focusing on different aspects:

1 Women Ignition
2 Fearless Relentless Escalation
3 Simply Start Sex
4 Relationship Roulette

Dunno if he sells those anymore, but they are awesome, and the laid the foundation of my game style.


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