I dont get nightclub game. What do I need to do?



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:23 am 
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Okay, so im not bad at making conversation, but at a club I cant do that...and theres a few other things which stop me from scoring

My current game (unsuccessful):
1. All I do is make friends with everyone at the club pretty quick, like the DJ's if I get in early enough, bouncers and bar girls. This is because I normally know the hosts at the clubs I go to, who introduce me.
2. Ill throw in some mystery method and peacock. Last night I had neon flashing Kanye shutter glasses, and they were getting heaps of attention, girls were dancing with me etc. Not in a "EFFING HOTTT!" way but in a "This guy is awesome!" in a humorous kind of way. Not sure if thats a good thing or not, but they didnt seem to be making fun of me, more just having fun with me
3. Ill dance with different groups of girls, maybe kino some targets by grabbing the back of their neck and bringing my body close to make some situational comments. They are usually comfortable with me doing this and dont get awkward/let me do it again and dont move away.
4. When moving away from the group ill be like "alright guys ill be back a bit later" while holding them around the waist or whatever. Usually they will smile and give a thumbs up.
5. Ill go get a drink at the bar with some mates, rest for a bit and then go back to the dance floor.

Issues:
-By the time I go back to the dance floor, for some reason my confidence is lower and I just feel a bit flat and have less energy to dance and talk to people.
-Im small, 5'7 and 60kg. Girls usually have guys, and im worried ill try hit on some guys gf and he will start drama (i cant figure out if the guy is a bf, or will be jealous, or what he is), so unless its JUST girls in the group I wont try. This usually removes about 65% of the groups of people I can target
-Unless im drunk, I find it really hard to close or make the move to grab a girl from behind on the dancefloor. What if she turns around and slaps me? I just dont get how to figure out if shell be okay with me doing that.


So yeah, I think im good at building some rapport and opening initially, and slightly escalating. .. but really bad at closing and knowing when to do it.

If I can obviously tell the girl likes me (Ie she starts dancing with her arms around me lol) ill know what to do, but if its not that obvious im clueless.
What advice can you guys give me?

What am I doing wrong? What am I doing good?
What needs to be done?

Thanks a bunch



also, the particular situation with my target last night was this:
-It was her 18th bday
-I introduced myself, said happy bday and kissed her on the cheek etc
-She hadnt been drunk before, or clubbing, and didnt want to drink too much
-She found me funny and a was looking for me in the club a few times to dance
-I kinoed a fair bit, the usual pulling closer while talking in her ear with arm around waist and neck. She was comfortable with this
-But she just wasnt interested. Although giving me eye contact while dancing cos she obviously thought I was a pretty cool guy, I could tell she didnt want to kiss me. For example, when Id grab her she wouldnt linger and try to stay close to me, when we were done talking shed move back again.
-Also, when she went to see her friend in the smokers section, she told me to stay at the bar with my friend, rather than be like "come with me"
Dont know what I did wrong...I did notice though, that toward the end of the night when I gave up and ignored her a bit more, she tried harder to get my attention. But I think thats the same with every other girl


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:55 am 
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if you are feeling extra confident, maybe give these things a shot, mind you, you will experience more blow outs, more quickly but don't think of them as rejections, just weeding out the girls who can not be with you, or the time wasters,

start direct, just say what you are feeling at that moment about your target/group, you can address either, if it is a mixed set, maybe open with wow you guys are fuckin pimps how did you land such smokin hot girls?, if the girls say no we just friends, just say srry, bud and start game

next is if your using M3 off the direct opener assume your in A3, and off the opener transition with logistics/qualification, if mixed set you started direct/logistics, still ask,

so how do you all know each other?
who did you come here with?
what are you doing later tonight?
do you live nearby?

all of these questions should be lead into if you can manage it, but they can help you weed out the girls who would be better off with a number and a french goodbye,

after getting these logistics, you can figure out if you can start going for the SNL, just try to make her horny, and then start asking them home/to their house/to your car/to bathroom, what ever you think you can logistically manage with the girl, use your own calibration and common sense,


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:28 am 
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alright cool, that is pretty useful :) but what about actual dancefloor game?
Thats where im most unsure...any tips?


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