It seems like a lot of people glorify drugs on here, especially alcohol. It is like they cannot function without being intoxicated. I cannot drink alcohol due to my bipolar disorder and doctor's orders... among other things. I wanted to hear your ideas on how and where to pick up girls without having to be surrounded by drugs. I consider alcohol to be the most popular drug, so I avoid bars/clubs that cater to alcohol.

Day game seems to be a good place for me. I also enjoy ballroom dance clubs. These may seem "tame" to a lot of people, but I am trying to lead a clean/sober lifestyle without the use of drugs, especially alcohol. Please do not tell me to go to the bar and stick to water and soda either. I do not like being around drunks anymore. Alcohol makes a lot of people stupid and violent, in my experience.

Do you guys have any suggestions besides day game, ballroom dance clubs, and the internet for places to meet women in a clean/sober environment?

Thanks,

Chicoman

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Here's some of my list that i would suggest for you to go if you don't want any alcohol/drugs that you mentioned chico ..



1)Mall
2)Park
3)Beach
3)Grocery Stores
4)Coffee Shop
5)Streets
6)Gym
7)Library


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And to throw 2 cents in, I enjoy social drinking. It may seem glorified but that's because a lot of people game at bars and clubs where alcohol is being served. I haven't seen too many threads where guys talk about blacking out or being hospitalized. I have friends that don't drink, and have never had an issue with going out and stopping after 2 drinks, especially if I'm driving. The thing is, though, that extreme attitudes either way are unwelcome to me. I don't like when people are self-righteous about avoiding drugs and alcohol, nor do I like holding back a friend's hair for vomit because she apparently needed that tenth shot.

Make your decision about drinking based on what you want, but don't disparage those who choose to drink in ways that don't harm others. Yeah, yeah, its poison, but my stance is that as long as nobody's driving, getting sick, or picking fights, it isn't worth getting on a pedestal about it.

TheNaturalPlayboy - Thank you for your valuable input, this is exactly what I was looking for.

DJ_Z - Did you even READ the title of this thread? You totally hijacked my thread to illustrate some pros of drinking alcohol.

[quote="DJ_Z"]And to throw 2 cents in, I enjoy social drinking. It may seem glorified but that's because a lot of people game at bars and clubs where alcohol is being served. I haven't seen too many threads where guys talk about blacking out or being hospitalized. I have friends that don't drink, and have never had an issue with going out and stopping after 2 drinks, especially if I'm driving. The thing is, though, that extreme attitudes either way are unwelcome to me. I don't like when people are self-righteous about avoiding drugs and alcohol, nor do I like holding back a friend's hair for vomit because she apparently needed that tenth shot.

Make your decision about drinking based on what you want, but don't disparage those who choose to drink in ways that don't harm others. Yeah, yeah, its poison, but my stance is that as long as nobody's driving, getting sick, or picking fights, it isn't worth getting on a pedestal about it.[/quote]

That was very poetic. I especially like the part where you justified drinking like "as long as nobody is..." I can think of a lot more reasons. You don't have to get all freakin' pissy just because a couple people around here do not like getting fucked up on drugs. I was asking for places to pick up girls WITHOUT the using of drugs (mostly alcohol).

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Uh...and I was just warning you from some of the language you used that being vehemently anti-alcohol and looking down on those who drink can be a serious downer, and that includes for women. I didn't list any pros of it, and yes, as long as nobody else is hurt is a BIG deal. That's just my stance, and I'm warning you because many women will get turned off by the total lack of respect for anyone who pops open a can of beer.

besides, TheNaturalPlayboy listed several possibilities. So just take a breath, and don't get bent out of shape because I spoke of compromise

DJ_Z - you sound like a guy that gets pulled over for a DUI and tells the peace officer to hold your beer. I used to drink some, but now I don't. I do not like hanging out with drunk people. Simple as that. Alcohol is a drug and I am trying to abstain from drugs. Please do not throw a shit fit because couple threads on these PUA forums (out of the thousands upon thousands) talk mention being drug free.

-Chicoman

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Stop arguing and get this thread back on the originally intended track

What this thread was originally asking was, how/where can I pick up girls without alcohol or other drugs?

TheNaturalPlayboy answered this question a bit.

-Chicoman

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Campuses. This coming fall sem, Im planning on getting some campus action as well.

I agree with the whole drinking deal. I dont like people who like to think they are cool or highly social or hip simply because they are so awesome with beer. Those that gey wasted too much are usually the tools. However, i do drink rarely. I drink wine mostly if i do drink. And if someone gets wasted once in a blue moon i wont mind as long as they are not stupid about it (no des driver, a gf blacking out with a bunch of strangers etc). Hating anyone who carries anything alcoholic would come across as snubbish and like dj said would turn off most women.

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Public transport?

Also, quick interesting stat for you;
Of people in England, 60% reportedly hit it off with their current partner while drunk, 20% through work and the remaining 20% in ALL other situations combined!

I've had some bad experiences with violent drunks in the past which had also put me off going to bars and clubs, and I also don't like to drink much, if at all.

What me and my friends do nowadays is to go out early, when most people haven't had much to drink, and then going somewhere you feel more comfortable later, or going home. You still tend to find hotties about, but they're not drunk, and the idiot violent drunks haven't had enough to drink so they're all quiet and pathetic.

Also, in my nearest city (Oxford UK) where public transport finishes at 11pm we can get into and out of the city cheaply, without having to get a taxi.

Day game is also good in Oxford.

SO I suggest going out to bars early and leaving before the 'piss heads' have drunk their 'confidence medicine'. LOL

I don't want a girl that needs alcohol to have a good time. Alcohol fucks up my medication's effectiveness and causes my life to be more difficult in general. Some people can handle drinking, I personally do not need it in my life.

If the average age on here is 18-22 or so, I can see how alcohol may be "the best thing since sliced bread". I envy you a bit. I want some girls that do not see alcohol as such a great drug, but it is going to be difficult to find them. This is just a part of my journey though. When you guys say girls get turned off by guys like me that don't like alcohol, I don't want those kinds of girls anyways... I've outgrown that stage in my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GijPQHOms

-Chicoman

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I completely understand you not wanting to drink due to medication and stuff. I also completely understand you not wanting to be around people who are smashed or people who reply on alcohol to have a good time.

However, have you considered going to places where there is alcohol but not the binge drinking attitude? Think the difference between a small village pub and a city centre club. This way, you will not be trying to find such a small group of women who do not drink at all but you will also avoid the drunks.

The thing with women and any form of relationship (sexual or otherwise) is that you have to compromise on some things and not others - clearly from your post women who get hammered are completely out of the question, but what about women who enjoy one or two drinks? Obviously, only you can make the decision as to where you draw the line but in my opinion it is better to be as flexible as you feel you can so that you don't rule out otherwise amazing women on something that in reality you could have been fine with. If you were OK with people who drink responsibly it would also massively increase the places you could meet women

in my town there is no daytime places to go, the only option is the street which is cool as chicks loove walking those things.

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I have schitzophrenia, and can't have alcohol either. So a large majority of my game comes from daygame. I like to work on hired guns...don't know why....just around Columbus there is some amazingly hot women that work the counter at the mall or fast food chains. My strategy for gaming women across the counter is the same....so this scenerio is good for any girl you meet that happens to be a hired gun.

I've noticed a lot of guys tell you where you can go to game women without drugs or alcohol...I'm going to tell you by example HOW to game women without drugs or alcohol.

Scene: At a Subway fast food joint.

Target: Hello, what can I get for you today?
Me: I'll have a Buffalo Chicken sub, footlong, on wheat.
Target: OK *turns back away from you to get the bread*
Me: Hey, what's your name?
Target: Michelle
Me: Michelle I've got a question for you. I know you work here at Subway, but would you happen to be a model of some sort?
Michelle: HAHA, No...but I'd like to be.
Me: Oh, well...I just figured you were cause you've got something good going for ya around here *point randomly across and around your face*
Michelle: Thank-You
Me: How long have you worked here?

Then talk small talk with her up until she has made your order, keep it interesting...maybe even outlandously crazy (not caring about how she sees you yet, just make the conversation something she'll remember), try saying something cheesy that'll keep her attention going like for instance....

Me: Well I'd think you'd make a perfect Cambells Soup model.
Michelle: Huh? Why's that?
Me: Cause your "mmm mmm good".

I'm telling ya....it doesn't matter how she sees you yet, cause the close will be such a close that she'll be wanting to give you her number. Then when she rings you up at the register ask her...

Me: Hey, you got a napkin and a pen?
Michelle: Sure! *hands you napkin and pen*
Me: Cool...hey, lets play Hangman real quick. Fill this out, I'll give you a clue as to what it is.

Then write on the napkin with the pen _ _ _ - _ _ _ _ then say...

Me: Here is your clue..."Lets hang out sometime."

You get the number, and if you came off as a memorable customer then you got the girl. Some times I eat at the place just so it may give her a chance to say something to you...like I had a girl ask me while I was eating

Girl: "Hey...what's your name?"

And I'd always answer with this...

Me: "Guess"

That'll get them thinking.

But that is the blueprint to gaming hired guns during Daygame.

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