I've been shy up until half way through 17, I'm still pretty shy but not to the extent where people call you out on it anymore. anyway I don't have much experience with girls and the only experience I do have is by being nice and having a girl be attracted to me just by my looks. I can't shake that nice guy attitude off because that's the only thing that has worked for me and it feels awkward doing anything else. So what i'm asking is how do you develop an attitude where you are attractive and how long does it take if your super committed?

I guess I was similar. I was a lad around male friends but was the nice guy asking dull interview style questions to girls. I never flirted, played games, or made fun out of girls for fear of offending them.

I think the reason for my 'treat them like an elegant princess' attitude was my slightly repressed christian upbringing. I was brought up thinking girls needed to be treated with care, and respect at all times. I thought certain conversation topics to be off limits around female company. If I ever came across a girl who didn't conform to my feminine ideal e.g. swearing, burping etc then I thought she was a slut. A true lady would never be so crude! I also thought the guys who were direct with girls were being inappropriate. It was a very old fashioned and misguided mindset, which has taken a long time to correct.

What I learned was that girls are not princess'. They love sex. They crave sex, they have dirty fantasies. They fuck around. They are sluts. For me seeing was believing (playing out dirty sexual fantasies, my clit pierced girl who loves masturbating in public etc). Internalising this idea meant I stopped treating them like 'diamonds' and my nice guy (read no attraction) attitude faded. Now I tease, play, attract, emote, and let them be themselves around me. They are comfortable and open up sexually in a way they never would (perhaps not at all) with a nice guy where there is a fear of being judged. That's why the bad boys are attractive. The girl can show her sexual side and he aint going to think any different of them.

I recommend reading the Sex God Method which has a few chapters on social conditioning which will correct your attitude towards woman and sex.

keep the mentality that u are not some pushover nice guy that can get steped on by girls

while thinking about nothing tell your self : im the shit, confidant sexual and dominate and i dont give a damn i am an alpha male


this bitch slapped the AFC out of me

Your stuck in a circle

Nice guy + girl = feminin energy = minor result + pleased with self

Usually the stereotypical nice guy asks questions which gets girls to open up to them about Their problems girl is talkign more conversation is flowing smoothly and its not awkward therefore guys are usually satisfied with this. Being in that position myself their are some benefits for e.g. I had a girl give me a lot of fashion advice which has served me well today.

But to be getting major results you need to break this nice guy routine which may take time as its an area you havent explored before and wont be comfortable with so when things go wrong its important not to resort back to being a nice guy as this is your "comfort zone" you have to keep pushing yourself further and harder even if you become a jerk. Jerks still get Laid. Nice guys get Married at the age of 40 and thats usually the only ponnani they get.

I would advice you to read Carlos Xuma "Alpha Man" Its got quite a lot of good things in their which would help you breka the nice guy routine

Not gonna lie.
That material is AMAZING.
Especially for someone of your age (i'm 19 and I found it to be one of the most beneficial things for me, as I was quite shy when I was around 17 also).
Check out some of Bad Boy's material, and read David X.
Think of it this way.
A girl has a pussy; she doesn't want another.
And really; do you give a shit about they're problems? Would you rather sit down and talk it out? Or bend her over the desk and make a situation out of it?

Choice is yours!
Hope this helps.
Seren

there is nothing wrong with being a nice person, but for that to work for you, you need to realize the line between being a positive 'GOOD GUY', and a pussy 'NICE GUY', you have to keep asking yourself, is this what 'I' want to do?

if your having fun with a girl, or talking to her, are you sitting there talking about her boyfriend because you want to do that? or are you sitting there talking about that because you care what she thinks and want to be nice to her?, you can spends money on girls and do things for them when 'you' want to do it, but if you are doing it to try to change what they think of you, or because it is what 'they want' and not what 'you want' then you are being manipulated and that is what will define you as a boring 'nice guy'

in short,

DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO,
STOP CARING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK,

you can get away with being nice, you just can't get away with being manipulated, or following,

you need to lead, you don't need to start being an asshole to attract girls, just need to be more sexual and lead