I don't know if this is thread worthy, but I am very new to this and am interested in working on it.

I was working on writing up some openers at a coffee shop and a 3 set (2 girls 1 guy) walked in and I used my fake-caller AP on my phone to give me an excuse to get off my laptop and walk outside.

I walk inside and semi-over the shoulder use the following opener:
I was sure to lean back, and I spoke to the obstacles (the guy mainly), and did body rocking. They gave their opinion and I said "yeah its pretty tough" and at this point there was some silence (i've never really done this before with canned openers) .. I then said "whats your name man?" and shook hands with the guy and asked how they all knew eachother, they were all friends.

At this point I realized I'm a freakin noob because I had no real plan for a transition. I ended up asking how old everyone was and decided to just eject with a "cool, thanks guys" and walked away.

I am a freakin stranger and dont want to be annoying, but what is a standard response or transition from here? Should I just bust into a story?

*ps I'm not a creep, i'm a good looking white male and was dressed pretty stylish and well groomed

i know how you feel man....when i can get myself to open confidently i find it hard to continue the conversation without odd pauses....this happens mostly with ppl i dont know

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dm86,

I don't think the problem lies in transitioning or knowing what to say. I think the problem is being comfortable with yourself and having confidence with yourself. I honestly don't believe in openers. It's not about what to say to women or how to transition. It's not even about women. It's about yourself and what you want. I know, you're probably thinking, well I want women, what do you mean it's not about women. Stick with me here, it's not about women. It's about you. It's about you becoming a confident and attractive man who naturally attracts women to him. Don't worry about getting the girls, don't worry about knowing what to say to a girl. Worry about becoming that guy who's confident, comfortable inside his own skin, fun, loving, etc. who just naturally draws women to him without even saying a word. What does that look like? If I was to tell you, create this main character for this book. Make him the kinda guy who women love and guy respect him. What does he look like? How does he talk? HOw does he behave? What are the qualities that he has that make him so sexy? These qualities that you just define is your own definition of confident, sexy, and attractive. These are the kind of qualities that you need to work on your own to become that sexy guy. Lines and openers are instant gratification, and like most instant gratification you were not a better man than you were when you used that opener. But to really list down those qualities, and build your own character so that you can become the best man that you can be, that is truly being your true self, your true potential, and your most attractive self. And you know what? After you do develop all of these qualities, you don't have to know what to say or what to say next, you just automatically know how to carry a conversation with a beautiful woman and her friends. Things just flow because you are sure of yourself and you are comfortable inside your own skin. You don't have to memorize lines and deliver, you just talk and actually have a conversation, not jsut pretending to have one. Realizing and defining these attractive qualities is the first step, worry about that first.

Finding a way to develop those qualities is the next, when you finish the first step and you need advice or help, don't hesitate to pm or contact me. I am challenging you as a man to better yourself. Take it if you're ready to commit to this life changing process. Take it if you're serious about becoming an attractive man not someone who has to rely on a script. I look forward to your response.



- Nelson

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Great feedback, thank u guys