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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:42 pm 
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It depends on who is winging who.

Sometimes it's best to mark each target in the group you're going after.

Even if you're not the alpha male of the group, the Alpha male if he's a good wing will bring you into it and help you out with the target. That's the whole part of winging with other guys.

Never pick the same target.

It's socializing like someone else said if you're not looking to really game it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:18 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:18 pm 
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Well, if you friend is being one type of Alpha then you project the other.

i.e. for a loud, brash Alpha become the silent, strong Alpha.

It's a stupid concept that there's always one Alpha in every group. Plus, women will love the differences between the both of you. Win-Win situation for both.
This. While you may think there's not room for two leaders in a group, there are many cases where democracy works. Your friends hopefully have similarities and one of these similarities can easily be that you are good leaders. You don't need to constantly lead a group to show that you are a good leader.

I have to disagree with a bit of what GameIsOn said. Making your presence the biggest in the group by standing out, making hand gestures, and making jokes about other males isn't the only way to show you're "the man" in a group. In fact, the last bit can show some insecurity. An intelligent alpha knows he doesn't have to tear other guys down to exert his dominance. A strong silent guy who doesn't exert unnecessary energy and allows this C&F guy to entertain him can be just as alpha. He gladly lets his friend amuse the group while he takes to his target and isolates.

As I said before, multi-level communication and remaining sociable in this setting can easily be to your benefit. You and the girl you are gaming can have your side conversations that nobody else needs to know about. As long as you're not too busy being in your head about "aww man, he's being so alpha :cry: :cry: :cry: " you'll be fine. Your boys should NOT be tearing you down, they should be willing to help entertain the group while you look to close your girl. If you're lucky there will be several good targets for all of you and you can pass off entertainment duties "Oh, hey Sybax, didn't you have a great story about [blah blah]?" " [blah blah... take over conversation] Oh man Zip, that reminds me of that time we [blah blah] you have got to tell them that one."

DHV each other. Be awesome. Have fun with it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:20 am 
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Very true.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:55 pm 
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Feel for you bro. I went on holiday with a mate like that. I got opened by a girl and then went to sit on a table with her friend because she let me join. Then after 5 minutes of good conversation he just sits down rudely and asks the one I was interested in about a BILLION questions. I just sat there like a noob for about 3 minutes hoping he'd shut the hell up, let the introduction pass and let me continue gaming her. He spoke so fast as well it would have seemed as though I would have been rude and socially un-calibrated to interrupt. Safe to say her food came and we left. I got her number but I knew as soon as my mate came in the set was ruined. Basically I didn't get to see her again.

The thing that annoyed me the most was the fact that he didn't speak to the other girl who was less attractive meaning he was being a dick. I had a serious word with him about it later but he said he though I was just 'being social' (On a holiday with attractive girls ... sigh).

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