When should you tell a girl you don't want anything serious? Obviously, if you pick her up at a bar or club and you F-close that night, she should know it's not serious. But if you go on a date with her, when should you tell her to get the better outcome?

I'm thinking right before sex for the first time? She is horny and she wants it, and she may appreciate it that you are telling her beforehand so she doesn't think you just want it to be a one night stand or anything. Of course she may take it offensively and say no to sex, so it might be better to tell her after sex so at least you have sex with her once.

I would not tell her right before sex, that's a good way to turn her off and have her walking out the door.

I let all the girls know upfront I'm looking for the right girl and a serious relationship. Will it be her? Most of the time no, but I'm not lying If I do find the right girl than yes I will try to commit.

If I never see her again than in my defense she wasn't the right girl. Sex is a very intimate thing for girls, most girls don't think with there vaginas. And a lot of girls don't just want to have a fling. Hope this helps, good luck!

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So you would tell her right as you meet her?

Well the idea is that while you're talking to a girl, you are using that conversation to find out if she fits your ideal situation. If you're going direct, you can absolutely say you're not looking for a serious relationship. But there are other ways to get the point across without being too indirect.

Chief's outer game guide mentions that as you're gaming a girl you ask if she can keep a secret. She will almost always say yes, and you just respond with something like "ok," and when she asks a couple moments later what the secret is, you just say that you wanted to know if she could because thats a good quality to have. Its not really a script, but the general idea is that you are letting her know that whatever the two of you do will not...be posted in detail on a public internet forum! Or sometimes you will get a shit test from a woman going along the lines of asking if you're just looking for a one night stand. They're fairly common, and you can use them to convey your need.

Example:

HB: I am not the kind of girl that has one night stands.
DJ Z: Agreed, I'd much rather get a nine night stand. Hell doesn't even have to be all in a row.

I made that up on the fly, so don't go dissecting my wording, please. The point is you can use those tests and ASD to pull it off.

LOL 9 night stand. That was really funny. And the "can you keep a secret?" line is pretty useful; I think I can spin that in an interesting way.

Yeah. I'm upfront form the beginning. Just use some sort of cocky funny transition to suggest she may be a clingy type of person, so you guys shouldn't go out or something. Then when she says she won't be clingy, introduce that you aren't looking for anything serious. Of if any talk of relationships comes up (probably from an opener or something), then just toss that in there casually.