also a quick suggestion, do you do much day game?

dude that was very inspiring Lucius. the thing that I get from your post is that it's how you project yourself to others that will affect how others treat you. In order to reached that point, you gotta believe in yourself that you are that guy. in your case you proved that you are responsible for your own life, actions, and mindset by staying strong to your frame and remained unaffected by those ppl who used to fuck with you. this is something that I can refer back to, how the past isn't who i am, because that was then and this is now. Now I am whoever I want or choose to be because I am responsible for my beliefs now as I was back then, but as soon as it's passed, I no longer have control over it, except for right now, the present. do you get me?

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F*ck it, let's do it

"In order to fill your cup, you must first empty your cup" - Bruce Lee

"Becoming great with women is a by product of becoming great yourself" - Cory Skyy

Nonsense !!!!! Dont be stupid

Im white British and my two wingmen are Asian . They pull about as much as I do.

But youve got to let go of some of your traditions. Develop the Accent and a style that fits in with people but at the same time stands out.

Make good use of your naturally awesome hair and style that bitch! ( lucky bastard)

Trust me on this it doesnt matter youve just got to pick up more of the cultural norms of wherever you are and drop a few of your tradtions, make more white friends etc

Thats the way I see the way my friends have done it, just dont fit the asian stereotype

Lol I followed one of the guy's suggestions and used my Asianess.

My standard opener is "Hey, how often do you get hit on by an Asian guy?" Lol I get pretty good reaction from this. They usually laugh and say "not a lot." I reply, "oh, well I guess I gotta make up for all of them." and I do an overt move like get closer or fast kino.

And no, I don't day game much. I'm doing night game first and then pushing for day game. I'm just a beginner.

man if your a beginner Fuck night game in my opinion, thats like battling in the trenches before you even know how to fire a gun. Go to a place that is chill, like a park, or a library, or a cool area during the day and just talk to people. These are the best places to find the kind of girls that I like, which are chill, smart, artsy, truly kind, genuine, and beautiful. The kind of girls that are socially calibrated and intelligent enough to not be judgmental of someone being genuine. If you go out during the day the likelihood that a girl will instantly judge you diminishes significantly, because she isnt hit on creepily during the day, and also, no girl likes to tell her friends she met the guy of her dreams out at a club or bar, straight up, and that has a major influence on how a girl responds to you in the moment. Try some day game, get your legs under you, once you do i bet you will never go out to clubs or bars, unless you really like dancing and loud electro, which i do, so i still go out to clubs and shit, but i rarely go there to meet girls. All the best.

- Lucius

In all honesty, I feel more comfortable in night setting. I'm a hell lot more shy in day game for some reason; I can't bring myself to talk to a girl when she's just sitting down or walking by. In a bar or a club, I just randomly go in and see what I can do.

do you drink when you go out?

yep. and I don't like to go alone. I guess having crutches makes things a bit easier while I'm learning this.

Well, it depends a bit on where you live and what society you spend your time in... But yes, looks, background, skincolor and everything matters... But then again, so does, inner game, confidence, experience and mannerisms...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

haha when i first started i used my job at a bookstore to get over AA, crutches are cool if you understand that you are using them in the first place. Eventually we need to drop crutches in order to develop. In your head going out at night might seem easier, however, in reality i find women that i meet as i just go about my day way more approachable. I didnt think this was true when i first started, i liked night game, however, i realized that a lot of other guys are very successful during the day and if i was going to reach the level of success i wanted i would have to get good at day game. So I forced myself to do something i was very uncomfortable with, and that was approach women during the day. Although i was nervous at the start i soon began to realize that i could actually say anything during the day and it would work as long as i had good eye contact and body language. During the night you are typically talking to a bunch of drunk girls who are out partying, their attention span is basically nonexistent, which makes it way more difficult to connect with them. By pushing beyond my comfort zone i realized that all my anxiety had been self generated, because in reality approaching during the day was easier, it was my own limiting beliefs that were holding me back.

Crutches can help in the beginning, no doubt, but to really have a deep identity level shift they have to be dropped eventually. Try gaming hot girls that work at trendy cafes or shops during the day at first, they have to be nice haha, its a great way to ease into day game if you know what i mean. I think it would be a great thing for you to experiment with, thats always how i get out of a rut, go shopping and get all the girls in the place to be my personal shoppers, its the best kind of warm up set during the day. I also have a great way to get warmed up every day. Every morning before work i go get coffee at the same place, where there are tons of cute girls, so now i know them all, so i always get to chat with a cute girl when i get up every morning and helps set the tone for the rest of my day. This is just some of the shit that helped me get started with day game, hope it helps.

- Lucius

I feel as though day game is more intended so you get girlfriends. Girls who go to bars usually knows, or at least should know, that the guys they get in a bar should not be seen as boyfriend material. So, if a guy comes along and the girl is interested, it should be for something casual if anything.

I'm not looking for serious relationship. And I'm also not looking to hook up with girls who want boyfriends, and once you get them in the sack, you avoid them. I think whether you want to do day game and night game depends on what you want.

Hi All,

The only thing that works against a guy is himself. Every girls is different with her defenses.

At first one would think it's the stereotypes. Yes asian guys have stereotypes, but that only creates a wall in your inner self.

I also think there is a mystique about women not of your race. This is something I've gotten over. They're all the same to me.

Nowadays I'm only into certain women who are attractive to me. Most seem to be asian I guess, but I have my share of white, hispanic and black women.

I don't know what it is, but women seem to come to me. I guess it's how I carry myself or the fact that I don't let mystiques and stereotypes mess with how I should be thinking.

I think nothing helps more than being yourself around everyone. There's no reason to reinvent yourself, you just have to show what you want to show.

Regards,
Otherwise E

I sarge anywhere where there are women. I sarge in NYC a lot, clubs and regular bars and trust me the women will only look at you funny if you're pickup is is terrible or you do'nt look confident. I tihnk you only notice these "looks" because you're particularly looking for them. I graduated with a degree in psychology and i learned from this one research study that if you're looking for something, chances are that you will create it to satisfy your mind. i advise that when you do sarge out there, as hard as it might sound for you, try not to pay attention to these things but pay more attention to your body posture, the tone in your voice, and some IOIs - don't go hunting for these perceived assumptions. I started sarging with my one asian friend and we were 20/20 this past weekend on openers with many beautiful women. Have a goal for yourself each time you sarge. My goal that night was to open 20 sets and thats it...i just focused purely on opening (my body posture, tone of voice, how i approach, different openers, what works and what doesn't). As you gain confidence from less rejections and overall loss of fear, you can slowly add to it once you master one technique. For example, this week i'm going to work on my mid-game (toughest part for me right now, opening is easy). I personally don't think it matters who you sarge with cause as long as you hold your compsure right, most girls will think you're mysteriously interesting and that's the goal.

I'm Asian and I never get weird looks. In fact, I'm the one giving weird looks to other asians (I'm like racists against myself, lol). I pretty much only go for white girls, and being Asian has no noticeable effect on my game.

It might just be a simple case that they're not attracted to you. Ive just met a girl online and she said she was getting lots of nice emails from Asian guys but she wasn't attracted to them. So it doesn't matter what you say or or do you just aint their type. She liked me and im a white guy and she said shes only attracted to white guys so its all about preference. We are all different.