This isn't a competition and I would like it if you didn't try to show "how big your cock is". I'm genuinely asking:

How often do you close on the first day of meeting her? And not after hanging out the whole day; I'm saying when you meet her at a bar, club, or even out in the street. Of course you can't F-close on every girl you meet on the first day, but I just want to know how successful you can generally be. Obviously every guy is different, but just a general idea.

Should you usually aim for N-close, or K-close at best on the first day, and go for the F-close second day? Or just go for the F-close if you feel like you can do it? I feel like if you have to on a date with her for the F-close, she's sizing you up to be a boyfriend.

as often as i can

Lol well that's descriptive.

You need to show you can escalate.

If you can get F-close on first day then you've done it.

Always go for the F-close (make sure the logistics and what not are handled) and if she says it's too quick, respect her decision and try again another time. (This doesn't mean you stop escalating)

Thanks. Yea, escalation is key to F-closing on how ever many days you've seen her. I'll remember to aim for F-close for every girl I feel like F-closing with.

In my early twenties, nearly every date. All the time. I am 31 now and these girls have MBA's, houses, shit like that. Much, MUCH harder for some reason. Save one.

Nearly every date?
If you could provide tips on the situation then though would be cool.

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Interesting question. I have your answer. I'm only 19 btw but I club every week and I am a club promoter so I see and know it all. Generally speaking. Anyways, last month I same night f-closed a diffrent girl every week at the club. At two diffrent clubs. One at one club and two from the same club. How did I do it? Simple. Logistics and escalation. Ask the right questions. Have intent. Btw 2 were one night stand. Third one was hb9. F-closed her twice. On two diffrent nights. She also had a boyfriend. Go figure. Anyways enough details. Point is to be consistant, persistant and take EVERY opportunity you can. First go for kiss close. If you kiss close there's a high chance if you play your cards right after hearing the logistics you will take her home. Btw the 3rd girl I f closed said she wasn't going home with me that night. Did I listen to her? Hell no. I listened to her body language and kept plowing. The key is go out. Push for f closes. Control your powers and take the opportunities that arise. If is possible take it. If is not, it will be on day 2 or 3. Be a man. Have fun. Treat girls with respect. And how do you treat a girl with respect? By not sucking in bed :p lol jokess

I gotta split it up into two halves, just because what I'm looking for has changed in the last couple years.

When I was still a teenager, like 18-20, it was almost always same night. It was always an all or nothing move where I was either hooking up with her that night or not bothering at all with a number. Part of it was that I was kinda jaded at that age and assumed all women would flake on me, give fake numbers, etc. F-closing prevented that. that being said I wasn't all that successful haha, so like a 10% rate of success, but then shit was goin down that night like 90% of the time haha.

The last two years or so (I'm 23, for the record), I've decided I would rather have a long term situation, whether a relationship or a steady fuck buddy. There's some personal info there I won't divulge, but I will just say that I looked back on my time and realized I was a fucking tool. So for the last 2 years I've maybe doubled my success rate, 20-25% if I had to guess for closing, but only once did I get the same night lay. That's actually a really funny story too...only hooked up with her because she was looking for dick and my buddy didn't wanna cheat on his girlfriend. So I made an interception and just offered to take her to my room. In retrospect, she was a ho.

She may NOT be sizing you up for boyfriend material. Maybe she's just into you and she wants to fuck.



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For me, it depends on the sarging locations:

1. Online - first day meeting up always leads to F-close or at least end with a BJ. This is 4 out of 5 times.
2. Bar/clubs - 3 out of 5 times same night SNL
3. Supermarket/Bookstore/Mall - Usually just kiss close or making out.
4. College parties - this is a no brainer.
5. Traveling - really high chance of first day F-close. About 4 out of 5 also.

Part of it was this, Another part I was EXTREMELY charismatic (I once started a cult for the hell of it) but very wild, so I wasn't BF material but definitely exciting. There is a difference (especially with younger women) between the guy you fuck and BF material. Also, I was in the military and then after leaving stayed in great shape (which I am nearly back in now). Women are shallow as shit, so getting into good shape (while it doesn't seal the deal AT ALL) gives you a leg up.


However---now I have calmed down a lot and have a corporate job and such, so I automatically fall into the BF category (but still try to keep it fun and exciting) I could really give a shit and women have done some shady things over the years like poking holes in condoms and such, so I am little more careful about always trying to f--- close. I got options and don't need to rush it.