what are you talking about? this all just happened two nights ago, how is it weak? because i wasn't trying to whore myself out as well as treat her like one? lol i can see im not the only one here with a relationship issue, at least im not a fool about it been there done that bro

well go there do that, when a girl ditches you on a night out, it is generally not a good sign, and i guarentee she does more then hand hold on a regular basis, girls like to have sex, if you choose to emotionally accept that or not is your deal, but chasing a girl who tools your ass, is a shit move IMO, make your own moves, but that sounds silly to me, she held your hand and had a sippy contest with you, so she is in love?, and yet she trys to get some other guys attention, tries to text him (most likely to hook up) and then ditches you with no remorse, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR ONEITIS

well if it doesn't work out then thats alrite, there are plenty of girls out there that need to get laid that i can go for. i felt different about this one so thats why she gets the special SPAM. its not that i put her on a pedastal, but i'd rather treat myself with respect by treating someone who was able to make me feel this way with respect. if its not mutual or doesn't grow into something more, then i would still look forward to finding that feeling again with someone in the future and hopefully it would turn out to be something more real.



2 weeks it is

invite her to dinner--the most expensive place you can find---eat well--half way through the desert ...suddenly get a text and excuse yourself to the toilet....then dont come back, leaving her with the bill...and better than you found her as in shes been well fed

if she gets back 2 you on wtf....u got an urgent distress call from your ex GF of 3 years ago whose kitten was stuck up a tree and you had to go immediately

back to this comment, its not as if this was an intended date as in i asked her to go out with me. if that was the case and i was ditched, then i could certainly take a clue. by what i described earlier and how random/crazy/drunk by that time the night was, i think it was a reasonable exception. 6 girls vs 1 guy, i think they had a little bit of cock block/jealousy in them. and of course they can influence her friend "oh come on what are we waiting for...lets gooo!"

she apologized to me on the phone and said she didn't even remember what happened (whether thats a lie or not, she was still apologizing) and still says she wants to do something soon.

and no, you can't guarantee she does more than hand hold with random guys on a regular basis. i was game enough to determine she had a boyfriend of 2 yrs and that she felt she wasn't sure how it would work with her moving 3 hrs away.

i'm not going to disrespect that and try to get in her pants that same night. thats just dirty lol. i think she flirted enough to know that i was attracted to her and that there could be someone there for her when she makes the move.

but i appreciate your feedback, your perspective is definitely worst case scenario but it helps me realize that it is not how it went down. whatever happened after i left, thats her business. i can't blame her for being sexy and fun. as long as i can get her out on a date down here (which is what i came here for advice) then i think im gold.

well i couldn't hold out til tomorrow, texting game has been on since 6pm lol. so far so good thanks guys

Your story made me cringe. I've never met you or know you but from what you've written so far it's absolutely no surprise that "100% of the time when there is a girl i am into similar to this, it just never works out"

Quotes like this just make me want to gag:
I think you're coming from a place of scarcity if you think holding hands with a girl means anything. As pumpington said this is something you should be able to do within 30 seconds of meeting a girl. It seems to me like you're delusional and romanticizing the situation because you're so desperate to get this girl that you can't face reality.

They ditched you and you're thinking "maybe they're in trouble... maybe they need me... I need to go drive around to find them!" This is SADDDDD!!!

I'm not sure if my post is just another waste of time here because it really seems like you're not here for advice, you just want validation and re-assurance because every time someone gives you some criticism you get all defensive and go into a long explanation post trying to justify your chodiness.

I think you need to develop a lot more self esteem and create some personal boundaries. I know if I got ditched like you did I would be going out and meeting somebody new, not driving around trying to find them and leaving my number on their car.

I don't care how hot a girl, it doesn't justify ditching you. Have some self respect buddy. If you were the kind of guy that had 10 girls fighting for your attention... would you be cuddling with the phone waiting for her next reply? Would you drive around looking for them? Would you get all wet just cause she held your hand? No.... no you wouldnt.

You need to do A LOT of reading on inner game and take some drastic steps to improve your core confidence cause it seems to me like you're really behind in those areas.

lol @ chodiness

may i offer "chodacity" as a synonym?

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well hey i only provided details the best that i could to explain the situation, i explained everything as well as i could. am i head over heels because i held hands with some girl? no thats ridiculous and was only a detail for someone to help assess the situation.

sorry but your advice and any other person who is trying to insult is wrong and i WARN anyone else who comes to this site to be very skeptic about the advice they are receiving. and please, guys, reading comprehension eludes you. my question was not about how do i get in this girl's pants? my question was essentially how do i see this girl again and do it the right way (since other girls i took similar LTR interest to never really worked successfully, i came here to see if i could do something different)

well despite everyone's advice, i texted her yesterday and turned out we went at it for a good 2-3 hrs. she called me later last night and we stayed on the phone for over an hour. cringe all you want dude, i used to do it all the time when i came across douchebags like you, i've learned that most respectable women place you below me so i'm not so concerned.

no disrespect but some of you need to take a reality pill.

i feel bad for those of you that can only see women as a sex tool. some of you should try hitting the reset button and start all over because you are going down a destructive path. like i said, been there done that, i thought i was cool a few years back having a girl for each day of the week lmao. some people just don't care for something more, but if you do want more out of a woman and LIFE, then grow the fuck up.

good luck, hope it works out for you

thank you