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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:17 pm 
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Ok so I was out this weekend Friday and Saturday, I was in a club on Friday and saw this amazing girl and yes she was a HB11 promise you!

Never really had the nerve to approach her on Friday, but she was the hottest girl I saw out that night!

On saturday my best friend dj'd at one of my cities best after clubs there is always huge que's outside of amazing girls so its very difficult to get in.

my friend dj'd 1am til 3.30am, so he was on first, Which meant I was in the club before everybody else. while he was playing I was with a few other guys I know, having a dance round on pretty much empty dance floor as the droves of hot girls started to pile in!

Almost straight away the HB11 (only tonight she looked like a HB12)I saw the previous night wondered in with 2 freinds, she came straight over to the dancefloor and started dancing, after 5 or 10 minutes she seemed to be dancing quite close to me and giving me the occasional glance, I played up to it and started having a bit of a groove with her! She danced backwards away from me but looking right into my eyes, (my legs almost gave way she was amazing), I grit my teeth and went over to talk to her,

I said.....

Do you know you are so good looking it would make it so difficult for a guy to come and talk to you! you scare the shit out of me!

she said..... Oh come on thats a bit harsh.......so where do you come from?

it turned out we live about 5 miles apart....bonus, she was very chatty loads of IoI's I didnt want to get to in her face to much so I kinda danced off to my friends, A few minutes later she said she was having a wonder onto the terrace, I hadn't really felt the need to neg her too hard she seemed as though she was already there.

I saw her later on while I was at the bar and she came up behind me and tapped me on the back and give me a little smile and a wave, I just smiled and let her pass because I could see she was heading back to near the dj booth!

I wondered back over and went for a number close, she went err.......ok!
and gave me her number and wondered off into the club and that was the last time I saw her!! Man I'm not gonna go to far into it but it felt like I had won the lottery!!

I left it until about midday today and I gave in and text her....

hey did u end up having a good one? you missed a sweet house party afterwards half the club came back (this was a lie), it ended up a bit crazy!!, got home at 2am this morning! feeling like the world is ending today, hope ur well it was great to meet you!

after sending I realised I had fully AFC'd it and wasnt expecting a reply,
although she did about 15 minutes later..........

Hi! at work today, slept all day yesterday, had a wicked night, was totally wrecked, cant wait until next weekend. x

I could feel the friend zone approaching, I got so afc'd out and ended up messaging this........

ok cool what are you up2 next weekend? not really thought about it myself, my mate is playing at _______ on friday, could be good, you upto much this week?

she replied.......

not sure about this week! need 2 catch up on some sleep im so tired! I will have to say hi the weekend if I see you!

Gutted, I realised at this point I was a total chump!! and I contemplated not texting back luckily I did and had a bit of an oppurtunity to neg her and try and claw her back.

It read........

Yes you do need some beauty sleep, If you want to get guestlist for______ on friday then let me know ill be sure to switch my phone off! x

she replied.....

Thank u cheeky, I will do speak soon! x

Feels like I may have clawed her back a bit, what do you think guys what should my next move be I cant fcuk up with this one she is too damn hot!!



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Do you know you are so good looking it would make it so difficult for a guy to come and talk to you! you scare the shit out of me!
First things first..

Don't externalize her beauty. It's not necessary and it's AFC.

You know she looks good, she knows she looks good, no need to tell her about it in the present. Your body language, face and eyes should do your talking as far as expressing interest.

Don't beat around the bush. Next time you talk to her, simply ask her in a seductive and somewhat muted tone if she wants to get some.. And give her a slight smile. If she says yes or maybe you know what to do. Take her somewhere and get the ball rolling, or make plans with her.

If she gets squirrelly about it, don't get mad or feel rejected, just check her later for now. Give her some time to think about it. You're an exciting guy and it doesn't matter if she plays or not. You've got plenty of opportunities remember?

Sounds to me like you're allowing yourself to get too wrapped up in her frame, and letting her control the interaction. Pussyawe, I believe is the term.

Look man, chicks are screwy. She's testing you, to see if you're a man. You know you want some, she knows you want some. Be honest about it.

You need to cut through her bullshyt ASAP. Or somebody else will.

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Don't externalize her beauty. It's not necessary and it's AFC.

You know she looks good, she knows she looks good, no need to tell her about it in the present. Your body language, face and eyes should do your talking as far as expressing interest.
This is very true.
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Don't beat around the bush. Next time you talk to her, simply ask her in a seductive and somewhat muted tone if she wants to get some.. And give her a slight smile. If she says yes or maybe you know what to do. Take her somewhere and get the ball rolling, or make plans with her.
LOL

If you plan to proceed with this advice, let me know how that works out for you. My guess is you'll have a 50% chance of being slapped.
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If she gets squirrelly about it, don't get mad or feel rejected, just check her later for now. Give her some time to think about it. You're an exciting guy and it doesn't matter if she plays or not. You've got plenty of opportunities remember?
He hasn't shown her anything about how "exciting" he is. All he's done so far is complimented her on her looks like every other AFC she's encountered.
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Sounds to me like you're allowing yourself to get too wrapped up in her frame, and letting her control the interaction. Pussyawe, I believe is the term.
This part he's right on. She's not unique or special. She's one of a million girls you can pick up.
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Look man, chicks are screwy. She's testing you, to see if you're a man. You know you want some, she knows you want some. Be honest about it.
She might know you "want some", but her ASD within her has to be tricked into thinking that you do not just want some. You don't do that by asking her "do you want get some?" I promise you that you don't have the frame or inner game to make that work. Even if you were the most confident guy, and the best pick up artist in the world, chances of that bold of an approach working is going to be slim and none. Too many factors involved with an aggressive approach like that.


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cheers guys all taken on board!

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yea I would say that route Starbuck is leading you down is not gonna get you anywhere... you've done nothing to attract or seduce her, you told her she was hot, too hot for you b/c you're scared to talk to her, you asking her if she wants some is gonna have her laughing in your face... don't ever open with a compliment either, you just told her "your so hot I'm scared to talk to you..." That doesn't make you sound like you're confident, like you have other female options, like you're an alpha male that gets what he wants... you sounded like a freshmen trying to hit on the lead cheerleader.

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Guys if a woman shows interest in you in the way swerve describes, and you've spent more than a few minutes with her already and she's still hanging around or interested, call her bluff.. Don't beat around the bush. If you do so you just appear to have a lack of confidence, you'll end up in the friend zone, or worse yet she'll hate your guts because she thinks you don't like her or something because she's heard a lot worse.

I've seen this shyt happen too many times.. Guys hesitate and don't make a move even when it's obvious they should, and blow it.

Because she aint being nice to you because she's a member of the Mickey Mouse club, or the girl scouts. If you didn't have a chance with her, she wouldn't be wasting her time.

Women love to joke about sex. If you can do it without being crude. Indirect is the best approach. The magic of asking her 'if she wants to get some' is the power of ambiguity. Another phrase you can use to start things off is 'have you ever done it before'.

'It' being the king of ambiguous words.

You know this just isn't that difficult. But you got to be willing to direct and lead the conversation where you want it to go. Indirect is always best.

I can't make it any simpler.

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...you asking her if she wants some is gonna have her laughing in your face...
Don't ask 'if she wants some'..

I said, say... 'so you want to get some' in the form of a question. (you being the one to do the giving to her of course).. There's a difference.

Laughing in your face? I would consider that a positive reaction. :lol:

See who's laughing last. 8)

The usual reaction is they make a slight bitch face feigning surprise (slut shield), then say 'maybe', I don't know you well enough, etc.... Then you take her someplace private or make some sort of arrangements with her to get to know her better.

Women expect certain things out of you if you're a man. And they expect you to want to have sex with them from the gitgo.

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...you asking her if she wants some is gonna have her laughing in your face...
Not if 'she wants some'..

I said, say... 'so you want to get some' (you being the one to give it to her of course).. There's a difference.

Laughing in your face? I would consider that a positive reaction. :lol:

See who's laughing last. 8)

The usual reaction is they make a slight bitch face feigning surprise (slut shield), then say 'maybe', I don't know you well enough, etc.... Then you take her someplace private or make some sort of arrangements with her to get to know her better.

Women expect certain things out of you if you're a man. And they expect you to want to have sex with them from the gitgo.
Starbuck has a very good point in regards to the direct method... It throws women off and if done right shows that your SUPER alpha... the tough part is you have to walk a tightrope here... Your frame has to be MUCH stronger then her's, you have to be able to role reverse back and forth, calibrate your "just kiddings" and semi joking accusations (now your just trying to get in my pants)... and never have your confidence or frame get swayed to pull it off.

IMO this is like swinging for the fences... if you can land it all, you should be able to get a SNL, but if you slip a little... YOUR OUT!

I say neg her, be confident and playfull, I don't think I can recommend the direct aproach for you at this point... and never call a girl a 11 or 12 thats just a setup for making a PUA feel like an AFC (value diffrence)... If she has Zero flaws... Aphrodity herself, a 10... besides that mark them lower... she's not mythical and you can have her if you don't reat her like she is.


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never call a girl a 11 or 12 thats just a setup for making a PUA feel like an AFC (value diffrence)... .
thats a setup for yourself and a one itis occuring. If you was to do more meet up more talking then boom the test.

Next move show social prove.

do you have a girl FRIEND or a wing girl? make that wing help you out by asking that girl question and make you look good. AFTER

Neg her next time build up that spark and never let her control the frame next time. You make her seem like shes a goddess. If you know how to dance USE IT. good luck with your HB11 or 12 (bullshit) i call you out on your bluff now do the same

p.s. talk to her friends also who cares what they think of you just make sure you keep your target fully attracted to you.

Field tested already my target still dig me even tho her friends dont. ALPHA her friends. Work my phone game with the target and the next meet her friends liked me and admitted to not liking me the first time. I guess it was one of thier test. Its tricky but hey its good ahhaha girls gotta love them for their bullshit

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